USPS Late, Wants Money For Tracking

[dangitgriff]

USPS is more than $160 billion in debt.
Guess who gets to pay that bill?
We need to shut down this poster child for socialism and big government.
https://www.businessinsider.com/usps...ollapse-2020-5

[dangitgriff]

“Management at the United States Postal Service (USPS) has taken a big step toward privatization with the July 10 release of an internal memo stating that mail deliveries would be delayed due to cost cutting and a subsequent directive prohibiting overtime and promising “more to come.””

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/202.../usps-j22.html

[historicfirearms]

I'm having first class mail take two weeks to be delivered or more. Priority is a bit faster. About half the days now we don't get any mail, never used to be that way. They are super slow.

[Harter66]

I expirenced this phenomenon in smallville Nevada . Their finest hour was when they forwarded a package from Midway with the split UPS/USPS delivery because the PO box recently closed was ahead of the physical new address . That and the new title they forwarded to my Dad in Arkansas in spite of the name being clearly different .
The thing about the split shipping is that it went from Midway to Memphis to Reno to a satellite sort 70 mi away that would have taken it 70 miles to my door but put it in the PO to go back to Reno then to the local PO who knew me and where I was located . Whom put it into the forward where it went to Denver for mark up via Phoenix back to Reno out to the local PO that sent a postage due tag to the physical address box . I had to pay $8.30 to get the package which is what the original shipping from Midway was ....

Currently waiting for a Midway box that has taken 3 days from Columbia MO to St Louis where it checked in on Wednesday afternoon and wandered out this afternoon . Mildly irritating since at this point I could have made a day trip out of it and just done a counter pick up . I don't know where Columbia is off hand but it's only 4 hr to ST Louis .

As I type this tirade it has arrived in Little Rock ........also 4 hr from St Louis and 2.5 east of me .

For gods sake don't let anything go to Memphis TN via USPS . They hired all of the Samsonite airline luggage wreckers to handle the mail there . If you don't get just an empty box it's because it's in a baggie .

Other than that my other 7,846 letters/packages have worked out fine including the USPOMO rent check some dumb..........I mailed with no address or return address on the envelope . Took it 3 weeks but it was delivered .

I think as far as doing the job itself , whether or not they are showing a profit , the job is actually done pretty well . It's still cost effective . Seriously what other delivery system is going to handle a 1200 mile delivery of a 69 lb 15 oz box for $12 ? Nevermind those 20#+ SMFRB for $8.30 , and do so with 1st class mail . FedEx or UPS just drop and go at least there's some threat of punishment with it in the mailbox .

[Sam Casey]

Is UPS or FedEx any better?

[downzero]

Is UPS or FedEx any better?

UPS and FedEx couldn't deliver the volume the USPS handles in December even if they had ALL YEAR to deliver.

People really underestimate the capabilities of the USPS. It has advanced technology and hundreds of thousands of delivery vehicles.

[tomme boy]

where do you work?? What would happen if overnight your there business trippled?? Could they keep up. Would the double there factory or amount of delivery trucks if they knew this was not going to be permenant and would go back to the old levels in a year? I dont see ruger or cci or hogdon building new factorys because theres a temporary run on what they make. Want to see real slow downs look for some small rifle or pistol primers. Just about every gun and reloading on line site has warnings that shipping will be delayed 2 week to even a month. Its fed x that using contract labor. My fed x delivery guy told me his check doesnt even come from fed x. It comes from a sub contractor. My ups driver works for ups and has been there for over 20 years. My mail lady is a employee of the postal service not a contractor and thats the same for every mail carrier ive seen around here. Must be different where you live. Personaly i think all three are amazing. Like i said the demand for there services has doubled or trippled and i still get everything i order. Might have to wait for the company to ship it a bit but once ups fed x or usps gets it its here in a few days. Heck fed x is even delivering on sundays now there so swamped. Top heavy? Or post office and its 4 small po's that are part of it have exactly one person sitting in an office. We had 9 lineman in our shop and had a supervisor and a line foreman sitting in an office and a secretary. Now thats top heavy. Our supervisor spent most of his days with the wall street journal playing the stock market. What bugs me is guys who really dont have a clue as to what goes on in a business or what it takes to make it work that consider themselves experts on it.

fed x drivers either own or lease their route. They also own their trucks unless it is the small van type. They mainly get paid by the pkg they deliver. Or it used to be the way they operated in the past.

[tomme boy]

UPS and FedEx couldn't deliver the volume the USPS handles in December even if they had ALL YEAR to deliver.

People really underestimate the capabilities of the USPS. It has advanced technology and hundreds of thousands of delivery vehicles.

usps contracts out all mail between the PO. They only own the local delivery vehicles.

[OldBearHair]

Checked my SPAM folder and saw an automatic spam. The message told me that I had won a new Iphone that was in excess of $1000.00 and it was sitting there at the Post Office To deliver it to me, I would have to pay a 5% delivery fee which was standard practice. Actually the money amounts were in pounds (English). Glad my computer put it in spam.

[cwtebay]

fed x drivers either own or lease their route. They also own their trucks unless it is the small van type. They mainly get paid by the pkg they deliver. Or it used to be the way they operated in the past.

I ran this by my FedEx and UPS drivers today - they just laughed. Not sure if that used to be the case, but I don't think it is anymore!

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[cwtebay]

All costs are passed on to the consumer in the form of higher prices.
Business owners can only price in those costs that consumers are willing to pay. Businesses exist to make a profit. They do not exist to support employees, unionized or not.
Detroit unionized itself right out of existence.
There is an economics 101 lesson in there for pro-unionists.
R/Griff

Well put.

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[abunaitoo]

The problem with all big companies under union control, is the union.
That and way to many "upper management"
Unions are really not needed anymore.
We not have many laws that protect the workers.
Yes, it is thanks, "in part", to the unions, but the past is the past.
These days all the unions want is money.
"upper management" does almost nothing to do the work.
All they do is direct traffic.
The higher you go up, the less work you really do.
Middle management still does real work.
When it's a gooberment opperation, it is 100 timer worse.

[tomme boy]

I ran this by my FedEx and UPS drivers today - they just laughed. Not sure if that used to be the case, but I don't think it is anymore!

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That was told to me by several fed x drivers about 8 months ago . Ups is union and is not the same. https://www.google.com/search?q=how+...obile&ie=UTF-8

[pcolapaddler]

USPS tracking is a myth

This...

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[downzero]

usps contracts out all mail between the PO. They only own the local delivery vehicles.

So what? The airlines are happy to take the mail. It makes them more money than passengers anyway.

[Mal Paso]

The post office couldn't do it with both hands and a road map.

December 11, 2020, 6:12 pm
Available for Pickup
CARMEL, CA 93923
Your item arrived at the CARMEL, CA 93923 post office at 6:12 pm on December 11, 2020 and is ready for pickup.

December 11, 2020, 7:10 am
Out for Delivery
CARMEL, CA 93923

December 11, 2020, 12:29 am
Arrived at Post Office
CARMEL, CA 93923

[dangitgriff]

UPS and FedEx couldn't deliver the volume the USPS handles in December even if they had ALL YEAR to deliver.

People really underestimate the capabilities of the USPS. It has advanced technology and hundreds of thousands of delivery vehicles.

They (USPS) have 600,000 employees and financial backing of the U.S. Treasury via Congress.
FedEx and UPS cannot compete in a free market with that level of Socialism.
R/Griff

[Lloyd Smale]

All costs are passed on to the consumer in the form of higher prices.
Business owners can only price in those costs that consumers are willing to pay. Businesses exist to make a profit. They do not exist to support employees, unionized or not.
Detroit unionized itself right out of existence.
There is an economics 101 lesson in there for pro-unionists.
R/Griff

Last i saw Gm Chyrsler and Ford are still the biggest producers of cars in the world. Out of existence??? Maybe look at whats driving down the road along side of you.

[Lloyd Smale]

I ran this by my FedEx and UPS drivers today - they just laughed. Not sure if that used to be the case, but I don't think it is anymore!

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fed x driver drives a fed x truck. There has been some use of private vehicles where there swamped and then they are paid mileage for the use of there own vehicle. Twice ive had fed x deliver in private vehicles so it does happen. They dont get paid by the package. They are salary. They get paid the same amount every day. They get a load of packages and if it takes them 7 hours or 17 hours to deliver them they get the same pay. Delivery people dont even get a check from fed x. Fed x sub contracts drivers from companies that do the hiring and provide them drivers. Another poster made the claim that postal workers have a fantastic benefit package. My delivery lady is considered part time like most delivery people today. She gets very few benefits. Being a federal employee her hours worked dont even count toward social security.

[dangitgriff]

Last i saw Gm Chyrsler and Ford are still the biggest producers of cars in the world. Out of existence??? Maybe look at whats driving down the road along side of you.

No, largest in the U.S., not the world, and their unions are driving up the cost of their autos. From Wikipedia:
“In order to improve profits, the Detroit automakers made deals with unions to reduce wages while making pension and health care commitments. GM, for instance, at one time picked up the entire cost of funding health insurance premiums of its employees, their survivors and GM retirees, as the US did not have a universal health care system. With most of these plans chronically underfunded in the late 1990s, the companies have tried to provide retirement packages to older workers, and made agreements with the UAW to transfer pension obligations to an independent trust. In 2009, the CBC reported that the non-unionized Japanese automakers, with their younger American workforces and fewer retirees will continue to enjoy a cost advantage over the Big Three.”
Unlike with the automakers in Detroit, Americans do not have a choice in who gets to deliver their first-class mail, with Congress granting a protected monopoly to the the USPS. Unionization in the USPS—and all public service sectors—should be banned by law to the benefit of the taxpayers.
R/Griff