RotoMetals2RepackboxInline FabricationTitan Reloading
Load DataLee PrecisionSnyders JerkyWideners
Reloading Everything MidSouth Shooters Supply
Results 1 to 16 of 16

Thread: 200 grain wadcutters for 38 special

  1. #1
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Location
    Down under
    Posts
    183

    200 grain wadcutters for 38 special

    anyone know of a mold for these?

  2. #2
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    1,224
    The only one that comes to mind is the old Lyman 195 gr. .358" mold, but it's a round-nose and may be out of production.
    Do you want a full wadcutter, or a SEMI-wadcutter?
    You might consult LEE Precision. If you can draw the bullet, they can machine a mold to cast it. It'll cost extra for "custom work", but they're still as reasonable as you're likely to find, anywhere.
    I don't really know if they're accepting custom work at the moment with "all of this" going on, but it's easy enough to find out.
    For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Ecclesiastes 1:18
    He that troubleth his own house shall inherit the wind: and the fool become servant to the wise of heart. Proverbs 11:29
    ...Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Matthew 25:40


    Carpe SCOTCH!

  3. #3
    Boolit Grand Master
    rockrat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    5,325
    Contact Tom at Accurate Moulds. I will bet he can make one for you.


    He does have a 190 and a 210 and a design at 200 gr. that might work for you

  4. #4
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    SW Florida
    Posts
    392
    Tom @ Accurate Molds has this one.
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Screenshot_20201202-090215_Chrome.jpg 
Views:	81 
Size:	20.7 KB 
ID:	272472

  5. #5
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Location
    Down under
    Posts
    183
    Quote Originally Posted by Kosh75287 View Post
    The only one that comes to mind is the old Lyman 195 gr. .358" mold, but it's a round-nose and may be out of production.
    Do you want a full wadcutter, or a SEMI-wadcutter?
    You might consult LEE Precision. If you can draw the bullet, they can machine a mold to cast it. It'll cost extra for "custom work", but they're still as reasonable as you're likely to find, anywhere.
    I don't really know if they're accepting custom work at the moment with "all of this" going on, but it's easy enough to find out.
    Wadcutter yep, 200 or more. Tried tracking down one of the HG molds for 230 grain pin bullets too, but obviously enough time has passed since they closed shop they are now heirloom level.

  6. #6
    Boolit Grand Master
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    5,299
    Check out the LASC site for articles by Glenn Fryxell. One of his essays is about the Lyman 358627 (a favorite of mine) semi-wadcutter cast bullets. His article is "A Cast Bullet for all Seasons". Should be right up your alley.

  7. #7
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    482
    Quote Originally Posted by mickbr View Post
    Wadcutter yep, 200 or more. Tried tracking down one of the HG molds for 230 grain pin bullets too, but obviously enough time has passed since they closed shop they are now heirloom level.
    That's a shame. Someone gave me a handful of those giant logs and I wouldn't mind having a mold for them, if only for occasional fun.

  8. #8
    Boolit Grand Master OS OK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Location
    El Dorado County, N. Ca.
    Posts
    6,234
    I wonder if you could fly a 358430 200gn. RN backwards for a FWC?



    It's a common mould that's been around.
    a m e r i c a n p r a v d a

    Be a Patriot . . . expose their lies!

    “In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” G. Orwell

  9. #9
    Boolit Buddy bpatterson84's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Location
    Ft Worth, TEXAS
    Posts
    217
    Now that 358430 is a design I'd really like to try out! What kind of load data do you like for it? Ive done some 200gr molds in 38, but have been all 200gr rifle boolits loaded a little long OAL, like that of a 357.

  10. #10
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    SW Florida
    Posts
    392
    If you would be willing to part with one or 2 I could draw them up and I bet Tom @ accurate molds would cut a beautiful mold from it.

  11. #11
    Boolit Grand Master OS OK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Location
    El Dorado County, N. Ca.
    Posts
    6,234
    Quote Originally Posted by bpatterson84 View Post
    Now that 358430 is a design I'd really like to try out! What kind of load data do you like for it? Ive done some 200gr molds in 38, but have been all 200gr rifle boolits loaded a little long OAL, like that of a 357.
    I'll be in the shop today and see if I can find my notes on that cast. Will post what I find tonight if I find anything more than what is in the video.

    Here's a video I did a year ago on this round when I first got the mould from a friend. I worked up 3 loads but never took it to the maximum...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK969_kkeIM <200g 38S Jug Busters _ Super Police Load of yesteryear



    I ended the video testing it in some water filled milk jugs...it's a penetrator alright.
    Now...for a .357M load, I think it may just fit the bill for a deep penetrator and have no doub't whether or not you can get expansion.
    a m e r i c a n p r a v d a

    Be a Patriot . . . expose their lies!

    “In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” G. Orwell

  12. #12
    Boolit Master



    RedHawk357Mag's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Duncan, Oklahoma, United States
    Posts
    525
    If anyone is looking for the 200 grn RN Matt's Bullets sells them. I bought a hundred for a project but I got busy doing other things last summer. I experimented with the Accurate 36-200R and got some unstable strikes at 20 yds, out of eight shot Redhawk and GP 100 I think. I again got involved in other stuff before actually testing to confirm. The paper tears wear slightly uneven and not every strike. Perhaps the weight and barrel twist is on ragged edge of stability.

    Sent from my SM-G986U using Tapatalk
    Ruger RedHawk 357 Mag 44 Mag GP100 Davidson Exclusive 5" Security Six 2 3/4", Speed Six 4"
    Smith Wesson 629 PP and 686 PP, 617

  13. #13
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Atlanta South Metro Area
    Posts
    888
    I have the Ranch Dog 175 grain TL GC RNFP that drops at 180 grains with WW and has a nice wide meplat. That's good for what I need. I've only loaded them in .357 for rifle and pistol, but might have to try some in my stainless 642. Anyone have a load that might work in a snubbie? GF

  14. #14
    Boolit Buddy muskeg13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Houston, Alaska
    Posts
    405
    I'm just beginning to experiment with this one from NOE. Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Capture.jpg 
Views:	15 
Size:	52.5 KB 
ID:	272522

  15. #15
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Location
    Down under
    Posts
    183
    Thanks all also Rockrat and 475AR, you had posted whilst I was still writing. Will check in with Tom at accurate, have a few types I am after now.

  16. #16
    Boolit Mold
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Posts
    7
    Magma Engr has a 230 grain flat point where the flat is virtually the full diameter and is listed as a "bowling pin" bullet.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check