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Thread: Hand cut dovetail

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    Boolit Man

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    Hand filing is a bit of an art. I found that a bit of practice makes the real job come out much better.
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    use a triangle file and grind or stone one side of it so it wont cut (safe edge file)
    use a small engineers square in the bottom of the dovetail to keep it aligned
    go slow!!!

    this aint hard but it do require patience and care

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    Ruts, I need to do what you did to your 94 front ramp. When JES rebored it to .38-55, I found that I must load my ammo hotter than I want to for the sights to align. I want my Redfield apeture sight to be bottomed out at 50 yards with original level loads. While I'm at it, I want to change the front sight to a blade instead of a bead.

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    Boolit Bub
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    Thank you for all the great tip. I should probably try a few practice cuts on an old barrel snd see how it goes.

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    Save your files some wear and do the first couple on a hard wood dowel. Will give you a good idea if what to do and quicker t see results

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    Ruts, I need to do what you did to your 94 front ramp. When JES rebored it to .38-55, I found that I must load my ammo hotter than I want to for the sights to align. I want my Redfield apeture sight to be bottomed out at 50 yards with original level loads. While I'm at it, I want to change the front sight to a blade instead of a bead.

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    Thats why I lowered the ramp and I have ordered a lower front sight yet so I can lower my peep a bit more. The 30 30 bore was ruined and I had it bored to 38 55

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    Boolit Bub
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    Great idea. I’ll try the dowel first.

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    How do I make a triangle file with a safe side? By that I mean smooth one of the sides of the file so it doesn’t cut the dovetail deeper. I don’t currently have a belt sander.

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    Buy a standard triangular file and take a dremel or belt sander and take the teeth off one side.
    Failing that then there is a long lot of stoning involved.
    Brownells sell one but it is atrociously dear.

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    Boolit Grand Master

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    The belt sander / grinder dremil tool are to aggresive and will change the angle. I use a medium grit stone and a few passes on it holding the files edge flat and down to it with a light oil. You dont need to completely remove the teeth just dull them down so they dont cut. Fine sand paper glued to a flat surface will do it also. This will probably take 10-15 strokes with either.

    After a few strokes you will see a line forming across the front of the teeth this is the relief angle and sharp edge being removed. This line should be about .010 wide, it dosnt take a lot. Leaving the grooves a lso allows the file to sit flatter and truer easier.

    with some files they arnt flat but a slight radius so fresh teeth come up the length of the stroke.

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    Boolit Bub
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    I’ll give sandpaper a try to knock the teeth down on one side. Great advice from everyone.

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    Boolit Grand Master

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    Another point to help, When making the safe edge mark it with a small groove near the tang to identify the safe edge. When you sit it down you will know which is which when you come back

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    I did the safe side business on the grinder wheel - twerent difficult - you just want one side of the three so it wont cut AT ALL - I ground the teeth OFF ........ cuts dovetails fine !

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