44-40 heavy bullet question

[Prairie Cowboy]

All of this is really great information. It's nice to know that those 240 grainers will stabilize well out to 100 yards, even with a 1:36 twist.

Also great to know that bullets like the Accurate 43-230G work well even if they are a tiny bit longer than SAAMI spec. That widens my choices of molds.

[indian joe]

100 Yards
Marlin 1894CB 1:36" twist
240gr Acme Hi-Tek
24.2gr Reloder 7
20 shots

4" Circle


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mine was ok at 100 yards but they fell over sideways somewhere between there and the 200mark - about covered the target paper (2Foot square) . Wano power was part of it those loads only doing about 1050fps --- when you on the edge just a few more rpm's can make the difference - a compressed 40 grain charge might have been enough. Brass gun - I dont hunt with it - usually shoot it closer - 200grain boolits are fine.

[Savvy Jack]

mine was ok at 100 yards but they fell over sideways somewhere between there and the 200mark - about covered the target paper (2Foot square) . Wano power was part of it those loads only doing about 1050fps --- when you on the edge just a few more rpm's can make the difference - a compressed 40 grain charge might have been enough. Brass gun - I dont hunt with it - usually shoot it closer - 200grain boolits are fine.

Yeah, that's about all I can get with the 1:36'

Try a round nose and just load one at a time. Still really need 1:20 twist though.

[Outpost75]

All of this is really great information. It's nice to know that those 240 grainers will stabilize well out to 100 yards, even with a 1:36 twist.

Also great to know that bullets like the Accurate 43-230G work well even if they are a tiny bit longer than SAAMI spec. That widens my choices of molds.

Be advised that I am using the Accurate 43-206H, 43-229H and 43-230G in the Gen1 Colt SA and New Service, but in Starline brass which is 1.285" long. Older Western, WRA and Rem-UMC cases may be as long as 1.305" and must be trimmed first or you may have issues.

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[Savvy Jack]

I have new Starline and Winchester that is 1.300". I have some old Winchester cartridges I dissected that are almost 1.309. I am amazed at the different case length I have run across.

[Hootmix]

Good shoot'n Outpost !!

coffee's ready ,, Hootmix.

[DAVIDMAGNUM]

Desperado Cowboy Bullets
240 gr .430 , 20-alloy, 23.5gr Reloader 7 and CCI#350 primers. I shoot this in my 1873 Uberti/Winchester. It feeds flawlessly, is accurate and hits hard.

[Savvy Jack]

Desperado Cowboy Bullets
240 gr .430 , 20-alloy, 23.5gr Reloader 7 and CCI#350 primers. I shoot this in my 1873 Uberti/Winchester. It feeds flawlessly, is accurate and hits hard.

If I recall correctly, the "Desperado" bullets are cast from Magma molds. https://www.magmaengineering.com/PDF/BBOct132008b.pdf

25gr of RL-7 with a Hornady SWC HP makes one heck of a load. It is very powerful. BUT I used a Marlin, may be too much for the 73'. I never actually tested this bullet for pressures.

25gr I think it was.....At 65 yards, I hit a deer in his shoulder broadside. It turned 90 degrees and traveled the full length of the spinal cord and lodges in the hind quarter. I did not dress the guy so I have no idea exactly what it hit to turn rather than pernitrate all the way through broadside. Either way, the deer never took one step and was a bit overkill at 65 yards!!!

However, I did use the Marlin 1894CB. Later tests yielded 1,400fps if I recall correct.

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[Outpost75]

I trim both .44 Magnum and .44-40 brass to 1.285" using the Lee Quik-Trim and use the same bullets and loads in both.

Keeps life simple and the deer cannot tell the difference.

[Savvy Jack]

I trim both .44 Magnum and .44-40 brass to 1.285" using the Lee Quik-Trim and use the same bullets and loads in both.

Keeps life simple and the deer cannot tell the difference.

How do you get a roll crimp that short? Or is it in the 1.270's were they are too short?

[Outpost75]

How do you get a roll crimp that short? Or is it in the 1.270's were they are too short?

Redding Profile Crimp does the 1.285 cases fine, but not 1.270

[Savvy Jack]

Redding Profile Crimp does the 1.285 cases fine, but not 1.270

Ah yes, the Redding is awesome! I went and checked and I trashed almost 50 cases cause I trimmed them too short a while back. I think they were 1.278.