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Thread: So, my first attempt at dtpc was an epic failure

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    So, my first attempt at dtpc was an epic failure

    I purchased some of Smoke’s powder a couple weeks ago and decided to try it on some old 44 mag boolits I traded for here on the forum.
    The lube had lots of dust and hair in it so I boiled them and skimmed the lube off the top. Then I gave them a wash with some acetone.
    The weather here is still very warm and humid so I did the coating in the house because we are still running the ac.
    Then, I took the boolits out to the shop to bake them . The new toaster oven I bought said to turn the dial to bake and always on to bypass the timer and the oven will maintain 400-425 degrees .
    Well, I can tell you a bakers thermometer will be here before I try this again. At 5 and 10 minutes all was well, I went inside for a few minutes and at 15 minutes bake time I found this.

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    turn'em over they're done , they almost look scrambled, done a few of these to date. I believe its part of the process to over cook a few ,you know kinda like a initiation/hazing thing, most have done it but few will prove it. Other than a little over cooked they look good.

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    I think my second attempt after I “calibrate” the cheap toaster oven will turn out ok.
    I am certainly man enough to prove to others that I screwed up . Haha

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    PID works on toaster ovens also. Been there with hot plate, thought would be good idea to pre warm ingots and they started to melt. When I tried to pick up with channel locks squishy.

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    I need to research these PID’s I keep reading about.
    The tightwad on me has been resisting.

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    Right brain, send me a PM, I will send you links to build a super cheap PID, shipping from China, so it wont come quick, but I think I built mine, with no frills, for under $20

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    Done, thanks !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rightbrained View Post
    I think my second attempt after I “calibrate” the cheap toaster oven will turn out ok.
    I am certainly man enough to prove to others that I screwed up . Haha
    A man who has never made a mistake, has never mad anything. Welcome to the club of those who own up. Regards Stephen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Cohen View Post
    A man who has never made a mistake, has never mad anything. Welcome to the club of those who own up. Regards Stephen
    Thanks and I agree completely!

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    Youíre officially a powder coaster with the first batch ending up the way it did. When I first tried it I didnít think the lead would melt but I was wrong! I always set a 15 minute timer with my phone after placing the bullets inside the oven. Havenít had issues with leading even in my Glock barrel. Smart to start with powders that work right off the bat.


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    Yeah, I didn’t want to go with an unknown . There were so many good remarks about these powders that it made the choice easy.

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    Almost All countertop ovens thermostats are off. You will find that the oven temperature will vary with the surrounding temperature.

    Toaster ovens will work but you need to limit the number of boolits you bake at one time. Convection ovens have a circulating fan that distributes the heat evenly.

    On the bright side, those boolits look great ( the ones you didn't turn into a puddle )

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    Lol, most of the ones that aren’t a puddle yet have a very large diameter base compared to the driving bands. They were all very close to becoming liquefied !

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    Well the powder coat cured fantastic.

    And held up pretty good.

    I had that happen to me once and the elcheapo toaster was in the garbage the next day with a new used one from a thrift store.

    No issues since

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    The great thing about mistakes in casting, coating and baking is that you can reuse your mistakes. Toss the fried ones back in the pot and start over. My first batch looked about like yours. I used a toaster oven for about 8 months then bought a convection oven. I have it dialed in and haven't had a problem since.

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    Yeah , I thought the powder coating actually turned out decent for my first attempt.
    And thankfully I can just throw them in the pot the next time I make ingots and erase that mistake!

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    My first batch looked worse than that. I don't have any pics but it looked like a lead omlette.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tankgunner59 View Post
    My first batch looked worse than that. I don't have any pics but it looked like a lead omlette.
    Now that’s funny !

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    And be sure you preheat. I had a fairly accurate little toaster, but I brought it up from cold and it overheats and backs down to the temp, and it melted some of mine before it stabilized.
    KE4GWE - - - - - - Colt 1860, it just feels right.

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    That was most likely my first mistake. I did not preheat .

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