I was listening to our local radio station's Swap & Swap morning show, and a guy advertised a Savage 170 30-30 pump for $300. I don't know the value, but I have 30-30 brass,and bullets,so I went and looked at it. This guy lives in town, and has never shot it,and has no ammo. He traded his neighbor a lawn mower for it. I would have bought it, but the lifter,or carrier assembly has no tension on it,and will flop up,or down by gravity when you turn the gun over. I don't think the guy was trying to con me,but I could tell he was not very bright,and I feel the neighbor may have lied to him..I offered him $250 the way it is,and told him that I thought it must have a missing,or broken spring. I think he thought I was trying to trick him,and he said that he would keep my number,and let me know. I told him I may bring a shell ,and see if it will pick it up,and chamber it ,the next time I go to town. I have never had a 170, but don't see how it could function with the carrier just hanging loose in the receiver, but I may be wrong. Can any of you fill me in ?