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  1. 10-12-2020, 04:21 PM #1
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    Any idea what this is?

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    Anybody have a clue as to what this is? Some type of reproduction dueling pistol of course, but any idea what make?
    I beat a lead ball.into it and it measured. 4385". It is smooth bore. I have had this thing for most of my life. I think my dad gave it to me when I was little. It has never been fired to the best of my knowledge. It was badly rusted and the brass was tarnished. I cleaned it up with evaporust (neat stuff) and started polishing the brass. I broke the trigger taking it apart, but it looks like something I can make fairly easily.
    I will post a pic of the only markings/numbers on it as well.
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    Numbers on the underside
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  3. 10-12-2020, 05:31 PM #3
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    Its a classic arms boot pistol if I remember right deer creek products still sells them.
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    It's a replica of a New Orleans Ace .44 gambler's hideout gun (google).

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    So it is, thanks fellas.
    Does any one know the specs on it? Like what caps does it use, just for reference all.my muzzle stuffers are flint. I have some goex 3f, what charge would it use? I assume it just uses patched rb.
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  6. 10-12-2020, 06:11 PM #6
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    .44 caliber, could be had with either a smoothbore or rifled barrel. Have 1 of each. Barrel unscrews for loading or cleaning.
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    That's it I couldn't think of new orleans ace. deer creek should have the trigger parts.
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    Assuredly NOT any kind of dueling pistol.
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    Ok, so not a dueling pistol, but more of a saturday night special type of thing. Interesting, now I need to shoot it. I cant imagine it having more of an effective range of 25 yards and that's probably pushing it.

    What do I need for this thing? .433 round ball, and couldn't be more than 30gr of 3f, would need a fairly thin patch.
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  10. 10-12-2020, 08:28 PM #10
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    A safe load would be .433 ball with an .015" patch and 15 - 20 grains FFFg.

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  11. 10-12-2020, 08:48 PM #11
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    I just sold one of those. It was not finished and must have been kit. I have seen them that were sold by Outers or Hoppes can’t remember which. I think there was more than one model. They were boot pistols, screw barrels.
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