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    Good info. I might go deep into that garage and see if I can find the motor.

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    Old street rodder here. The flathead Ford V-8 was introduced in 1932 in the Model B (18) Fords. Clyde Barrow wrote a letter to Ford commending the V-8 for its performance. It well may have been the impetus for NASCAR as well with the moonshiners favoring its performance. It was no barn burner but it was head and shoulders above anything else on the market at the time. It was finally replaced with an overhead valve V-8 in 1954.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Southgate View Post
    That would have been the 85 HP -125 hp engines . The 60 Hp was a smaller economy engine, in HP as well a physical size . Looking at both side by side it's no problem to tell the difference between them . 60 HP motors had 17 head bolts and the 85 and up were 21 bolt . The 85 HP came out in the best looking of the A model Fords , the 1934 .
    The 1933/34 is a beautiful design but itís not a Model A. It was the Model 46. Model A Fords were produced from 1928 until 1931. The Model B was the 1932 Ford and the design was unique to that year. The V-8 variant was the Model 18. Model letters werenít chronological; the Model T was produced from the 1909 model year through the 1927 model year.
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    wonder if theres any place that buys them. My neighbor died with a flat head v8 ford small dump truck about a 1/3 of the way restored. He had the chassis and drive train done but the body would need serious work. Im sure his wife would sell it or even part out the motor seperately.
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    “Hemmings Motor News” is a good resource for buying and selling antique car items.
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    Biggest problem with Ford s 90 years later is exhaust passages rusting through ....if the blocks been dry since the 40s ,then it may be OK....My favourite was the V8s made for various purposes during WW2.....several surplus dealers here used to sell the V8 Power Pack for around $75 -$80,that included a truck clutch and radiator...all new ,never used.

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    That block is very thick, I bored on 60 over and has room for more. One version had stainless bock sides that rusted and some had aluminum heads. B 32 was all steel body vs wood and steel from earlier.
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    On the subject of prewar Ford V8s......someone I know says that a very thinwall steel liner was available to repair worn bores ,that just needed ridge cut ,and then slipped in past the pistons ,and was clamped by the head gasket ......fact or fiction?.....( im familiar with cast iron liners that need boring the block)

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    Liners were popular at one time, not any more. Not just a simple slide in.
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    I printed out some of the info from the links Popper posted. My wife brought the pages to her father. She said he was like a kid again, reading about that motor. He wants to get it out of the garage. You made a 91 yr old's day.

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    Yeah Popper, thanks for the links. Between my 15th and 17th birthdays I went through 5 of those flathead cars from a 48 Ford to a 51 Merc. All were $25-$50 clunkers but being poor I learned to fix things. One memory stands out. On a date New Years eve in a snowstorm, the motor quits, no fuel flow. Get out, take off the pump and find a small nut in my tool box. Put some grease on the nut to hold it in the actuating rod cup on the pump so it will lengthen the stroke on the pump diaphram. Reinstall the pump and off to the party! You could always get another day or two out of a fuel pump that way. Those were the days!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwtebay View Post
    Pretty certain the length would be a problem in an 8N... Perhaps a Jubilee! If it was hanging out over the axle!!

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    Not so! do a search for "8n v8 conversion", There were kits available to do just that, plenty of pics on the 'net. There was also a Sherman transmission for them that were available in either, or maybe both "step up" or "step down" versions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by popper View Post
    Liners were popular at one time, not any more. Not just a simple slide in.
    A liner - we called them "sleeves" were used to reline a cylinder bore. The cylinder would be bored out and a recess would be cut in the top of the newly bored cylinder for the collar on the sleeve that held it in place.
    There were "Paper sleeves" that thin walls. There were heavy sleeves that had walls that were at least 3/16" thickness or more. You could save an engine block with sleeves.

    Back in the day when there was no money, a bottom end knock sometimes meant taking the oil pan off, taking the head off, disconnecting the worn connecting rod and pushing the piston and rod up through the top of the block then running on 7 rather than 8 cylinders. Or 5 cylinders rather than 6. That ended with pressurized oil passages in the crankshaft to lubricate the con rod bushings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan in Vermont View Post
    Not so! do a search for "8n v8 conversion", There were kits available to do just that, plenty of pics on the 'net. There was also a Sherman transmission for them that were available in either, or maybe both "step up" or "step down" versions.
    Learn something every day!! Wouldn't have guessed that would work! Thank you for sharing that link.

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    any idea what one that has new rings valves and bearings is worth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Smale View Post
    any idea what one that has new rings valves and bearings is worth?
    That depends on the skill of the individual who assembled it.
    I have come to regard rebuilt "fresh" engines as dubious.
    Locally there are two shops with folks who have the skills to rebuild an old engine, It is not just parts replacement.
    There are more folks who do NOT know how to do a proper rebuild to minimum specs than there are who do.
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    60, prob. Not much unless for a restoration. 85 or 90, cost of parts.
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    guy that rebuilt it was a machinist all his life and is about as anal as they come. He died of a stroke last year and in his elegy his brother said that hes no doubt Gods #1 mechanic in heaven today. he had a better machine shop at home then most places that rebuild motors have. It was a small dump truck. The whole chassis has been rebuilt. Frame blasted and painted. All new suspension and bushings. Transmission and rear were stripped down and he found very little wear. truck odometer had 37k on it but i dont know if it worked. Body is rough though and would take ALOT to restore. he started on it and got all the mechanical parts done then kind of lost interest. im sure if it would have been a car or pickup he would have finished it but he had no use for a dump truck.
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