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    so I have to ask

    I went and bought a pc gun from Eastwoods
    now I have one lingering question, when I pc on my oven tray
    which is aluminum I believe,I will ground to that tray so will the powder adhere
    to the tray as well as the boolits?
    Is there any way around this if that happens?
    I am excited about this new to me method.
    I will be coating all sorts of boolits HP and non HP gas checked and plain based boolits
    I am just not happy with the coverage I am getting with SB method so thought I would try this
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    use aluminum foil and ground to it. saves the tray
    with HP boolits make a tray with screws sticking up and set the HP on them
    with GC boolist attach brass to the tray and stick the GC portion in the brass

    others can give you more details on this

    S&D works well with the right powders and techniques

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    the excess paint covering everything was the reason I went to shake and bake. the hollow point on a does work good.
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    some S/B colors give me good coverage some don't
    I want them all to work
    What I was trying to get away from is covering the oven pan
    with powder every time without being able to recover the over spray
    Hit em'hard
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    There is magic in the container that you do the shake in; it should have a symbol '5' inside a triangle stamped on the back. I don't use foil but non-stick baking paper. Have 'mirror black' 'wagon red' and 'ford light blue' Eastwood powders and all give excellent coverage.


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    I have been using the S/B method for over 3 years
    am just trying a different way of doing things is all
    was interested in capturing the over spray to reuse
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    Quote Originally Posted by white eagle View Post
    some S/B colors give me good coverage some don't
    I want them all to work
    What I was trying to get away from is covering the oven pan
    with powder every time without being able to recover the over spray
    Putting aluminum foil down on top of the tray seems like your best bet. Otherwise, spray them on another piece of metal and carefully move them to your baking tray.

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    Didn’t someone build a bent wire frame for hollow points? I think he shot them on one pan and then moved the frame to another pan for curing. Or maybe I saw it in a dream.

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    Please make sure you use the non-stick aluminum foil, you'll thank me later.
    Just ground to the foil.

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    if you make a wire mesh tray you can stand them up and spray them. you can then tap the side of the mesh tray to shake of extra powder and recover it. doesnt take much just to know of majority of extra powder

    I personally use non stick foil. Spray once and turn over and spray again . I then toss it. the residual amount of powder lost is inconsequential to me

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    I riveted 22lr shells directly to cookie sheets which I set the boolits on. I just let the PC cure on the sheets and reuse without worry. At 2 mil thick per coat it would take a few hundred uses before ever becoming a problem.

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    turns out Eastwoods didn't have the gun and won't have it till January of 2021
    so I had to cancel the order. I bought another one off e-bay which I may have made a mistake in buying
    but we will see.Needless to say my powder gun trials are going to be delayed
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    I've tried many different methods of spraying, hanging from a wire, set on cartridge case, lazy susan, etc. Biggest problem is the spacing required to get entire bullet coated. Yes I even flipped them over, left noses uncovered, etc. I now shake & bake!
    Whatever!

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    Non stick aluminum foil did not work for me. I stude up all the bullets. Then sprayed them. All the bullets stuck to the foil. And yes it was the right side and it was Reynolds non stick so it was not cheap knock offs.

    I tried to make a tray with holes in it to stand up the bullets with holes in it. It worked a couple times then the build up prevented them from conducting the electricity. the tray took a long time to make and not worth it. Thats when I went to S&B amd have not looked back.

    I have the HF spray gun sitting collecting dust

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    I feel I don’t get “much” powder on the foil as waste. Not much powder has to be coming out of the gun for it to work. My cheap HF gun can send a bunch out at once now and then if I’m not careful, otherwise it’s a light dusting of waste each time. Not worth caring about in my opinion.

    I couldn’t for the life of me get attachments in this reply, so i went and found the thread i used them in years ago. Hopefully a copy/paste of that takes you there to look at my setup if you’d like to see it. -Brad

    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...72#post2613272

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    well I got my powder gun and aside from getting a system down
    I like what I see and have done
    I chose a powder that I had trouble with when shake and bake
    some of Smokes translucent cooper was only able to make speckled look
    with s/b but with the powder gun they come out looking like root beer
    barrels<I am coating 400 gr.45/70 boolits so far so good
    Hit em'hard
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomme boy View Post
    Non stick aluminum foil did not work for me. I stude up all the bullets. Then sprayed them. All the bullets stuck to the foil. And yes it was the right side and it was Reynolds non stick so it was not cheap knock offs.

    I tried to make a tray with holes in it to stand up the bullets with holes in it. It worked a couple times then the build up prevented them from conducting the electricity. the tray took a long time to make and not worth it. Thats when I went to S&B amd have not looked back.

    I have the HF spray gun sitting collecting dust
    Did you by chance use HF powder when they all stuck to the aluminum foil ?? If so I had that exact thing happen with some red HF powder . I have used several other brands and colors , but only the HF stuck to everything. It was like a big pile of melted cheese. it was still to soft .

    I thought it might have been my technique, but I have only ever had it happen with HF powder.

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    the nonstick aluminum foil is a good trick and part of my procedure now
    use a cardboard scraper and scrape into pile and back in powder container
    so far its working swimmingly
    Hit em'hard
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    Can you show us some Pictures? Maybe some of your shake/bake versus your new Spray ones?

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    For Hollow points I use my "Bed of Nails". They are hardened carpet tack strip nails set through drilled holes in a aluminium half sheet baking pan. A flat piece of sheetmetal riveted to the bottom of the pan which covers the nail heads and keeps them rigid and upright. A piece or pieces of parchment paper is punched over the nails to protect the pan from the powder. The HP bullets are set on the nails. I then put the tray in the oven and do a 400 degree preheat. When I pull the tray out I am ready to spray. I attach the ground cable to the pan and spray. The powder adheres to the hot bullets and flows immediately and it is also electrostatically attracted to the bullets. Very little powder is deposited on the parchment as you can see in the photos. Using this method I can see the coverage immediately. Once sprayed I can return the tray to the still hot oven for final cure or do it later if I wish.

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check