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    .30 Army with strange "FMJ" bullets

    I have some interesting old Super Speed .30 Army cartridges that appear to be factory loads with old times rounded primers. What is very different are the bullets, they have a separate tip that is attached with three sections of solder/ lead (uniformly spaced and formed exactly alike), has anyone seen any bullets like this before?Click image for larger version. 

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    Those appear to be Remington Bronze-point bullets assembled in handloaded Winchester factory-primed brass. The Bronze-point bullets resisted point deformation in the magazine and were very thin jacketed for long range expansion, but they did not hold together for deep penetration on large animals like elk. A good mule deer and antelope bullet.
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    Was Remington making Bronze Points that far back? These tips are the same material as the bullet jackets, nothing like contemporary Bronze Points, at least not like ones I have seen as far back as the 60's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKH View Post
    Was Remington making Bronze Points that far back? These tips are the same material as the bullet jackets, nothing like contemporary Bronze Points, at least not like ones I have seen as far back as the 60's.
    Remington Brnze Points date to the 1930s.
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    Was doing some more research thanks to your mention of bronze points, seems there were multiple companies making similar bullets, its going to take some digging to figure out who made these, they could be an earlier version of Winchester silver tips possibly, these look like factory loads not handloads.

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    That doesn't look like the Remington bronze points I've seen and loaded, their points were "bronze" colored, a solid bronze point inserted into jacket seam was super tight/small.
    The Remington Bronze Points came as boxed bullets from the White Elephant in 1980s, 10.00 per 100 and Winchester SilverTip came from Cabelas as bulk bullets in mid 90s for similar price.
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    .....also that looks like the tip was made to 'come off' and the 3 dobs of exposed lead appear to just be core?
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    Bronze points and silver tips 180gr. just love them in my 30 army when I can find them I don't pass them up.

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