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    Too bad we couldn’t have traded Bill and Hillary to China for a brick of .22 ammo. We’d probably have had to throw in some Kaiji.

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    Thanks Gray Fox . . . things were getting a bit confused there.

    I look at it in a couple of ways as far as the shortage . . . . partially due to productivity shortages . . . and no one could predict the Covid crisis or how many would not be going to work . . . and partly because of the panic and resulting hoarding. No different than the toilet paper/paper product shortages when Covid hit. Add in the sway to the left and all the disruptive behavior . . . gun sales went up with even some Dems buying some due to their fear of what is going on. With added gun sales goes increase demand for ammo - including 22s.

    I bought a new Henry lever action 22 in January . . . hmmmm . . . . now a shortage again like we had to put up with during the Obama and BIDEN gig. I have a brick of 500 LR and maybe a total of 300 Shorts but I guess I will just hang on to them and not shoot the new rifle until supplies become available again. I refuse to get up and stand in line at 5 in the morning to get a number for when a sporting goods stores opens up in order to get a chance to buy a box or two of ammo like we had to do the last time.

    Personally, I don't want any Chinese ammo as all it does in importing ammo from outside the US is cut down on American manufacturers ability to compete as well as puts Americans out of work. It's unfortunate about the scarcity of 22 ammo - but I'm hearing from others that it's the same with centerfire ammo in some places. Thankfully, I reload - but even then, powder, primers, etc. are short as well. If it gets really bad as far as shortages, I can always pull the flintlock out.

    We can thank the politicians, in most cases, for the shortages - and I'm talking those in BOTH parties. They've lined their pockets and sold the American public out when it comes to China and other countries. Prescription drugs is just the tip of the iceberg and God Bless the POTUS for trying to put a stop to it and bring the jobs and manufacturing back to our country for our CITIZENS. This is my personal opinion, but I feel that the POTUS has only been wrong about one thing . . . he called Washington, D.C. a "swamp" . . . but perhaps he was just showing restraint . . . he should have told it like it is . . . it's not a "swamp" . . . it's a "septic tank".

    Hopefully, those that enjoy shooting their 22s will have enough ammo to keep going until supplies improve. All I can think of are the kids and grandkids that are losing out by not having enough 22 ammo to learn to shoot, learn proper gun safety and most of all, make great memories with their parents and grandparents.

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    it might just about be time to get rid of that nasty sticky norma tac 22 stuff

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    I only shoot 22 in a contender. You go through a lot less than a teenager with a 10-22.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally View Post
    I am aware, however we've had too many persistent shortages...as stated I recall a 40 year stretch when there were none--in the last 20 how may have there been? Do we really enoy shooting a pellet rifle when your ammo runs out? Nothing much we shooters can do when so many vote for that party.
    There are to many factors to list but I will list some. Manufacturers are run by accountants. They don’t want product sitting around because that means they are spending money and not making it. Combine this w/ an inventory tax and it’s why everyone has switched to “just in time” manufacturing. This can be good for the companies bottom line but never good for the consumer.

    Like the oil industry there are boom and bust cycles. Capital expenditures are limited because of it. And tooling for ammo and component production is not cheap.

    There’s a lot more to it than just that. You can also look at what was happening when the shortages happened. It always happened around something anti-gun in some form. Sometimes it was implied and sometimes it was real like the AWB.

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    Going to get worse before(if) it gets better. If Obama didn’t teach you the Boy Scout motto, shame on you. The pandemic only made this inevitable shortage start early.

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    I learned, as I am sure many others have, as well. I have a stash that I bought here & there whjen it was available and at reasonable prices. However I also know that I have to use it widely and shoot less. Oh well my trusty German pellet rifles will come in handy again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MT Gianni View Post
    I only shoot 22 in a contender. You go through a lot less than a teenager with a 10-22.
    I used to go through a 550 brick every week- if I was pacing myself...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dverna View Post
    Maybe we should vote for Biden after all....
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    I got caught a bit with Clinton. After that shortage evened out I quickly acquired lifetime supplies of 22LR and reloading supplies. Some of my powder and primers was bought back in the 60's BC (before Clinton)
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