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    Oooph.... boy i wish i had a way of getting that box o stuff. Swore id never go back to Washington after what i witnessed years ago so no go
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    There are a couple of oddities in the #5 line. One is a Lyman made measure with a wood handle. I have seen only one though this looks factory made so there are probably more. Unusual is the handle casting, it is not taken from an earlier #1-4 and it is not a modified #5 handle. A mystery yet to be solved.
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    Then there is this one with a modern bench clamp thumb screw. I have two of these so I know it was not an owner modification and the staking involved is beyond most home shop capabilities anyway. Both are also Lyman made.
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    Just for fun these two are the 1899, early (top) and later (bottom) Ideal #1 measures. This is were is all began. The difference is in the drum and how adjustments are made.

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    Love my old #1... came to me with a replaced, shortened reservoir tube and no top, but it just feels good to use when I'm doing black powder revolver loads. Also, it looks good next to the old lubri-sizer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Frog View Post
    Love my old #1... came to me with no top, but it just feels good to use when I'm doing black powder revolver loads.
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    It's missing the top for a reason, there was no top. The #5 and #6 were the first models to get a top.
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    Thanks, Ken. I think I recall hearing that now that you remind me. Of course my reservoir is just a little short piece of nickel plated brass instead of the rolled steel stovepipe type from the original. It just keeps chugging along though!

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    If you can find it, there is an excelent article covering these early measures in the May-June Single Shot Rifle Journal. Of course it is written by an esteemed Castboolits member.

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    And, I thought my #55 was pretty old....it’s a mere child. It was well-worn when I bought it in 1972. So....when did production start for the #55? memtb

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    Quote Originally Posted by memtb View Post
    So....when did production start for the #55?
    The earliest mention of the No.55 thai I've seen is in a small (3-5/8 x 8-11/16, 20 pages) catalog of Ideal Reloading Tools and Accessories published by Lyman, dated 3-47 (March 1947). So, it was in production at least by that time.

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    Thanks JR, when I bought mine, used around 1972, it was well used! memtb

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    Quote Originally Posted by memtb View Post
    Thanks JR, when I bought mine, used around 1972, it was well used! memtb
    If you’ll post a picture or six of yours, we can probably make a better guess of when it was made by its specific features.

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    Thanks Froggie, I can handle that....I think!

    I attempted to photo the interior....that was a challenge, and not very good! memtb


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    The gray color is from 1969-1978 when Lyman was under the control of Leisure Products.
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    Thanks Pressman, I guess that it’s not as old as I thought it may be! memtb

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    Yeah, to those of us who came of age in the '70's it is not old. Like it was just a couple of years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pressman View Post
    Yeah, to those of us who came of age in the '70's it is not old. Like it was just a couple of years ago.
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    I don’t remember seeing the decal like that on a grey press? Ken, is that normal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Frog View Post
    I don’t remember seeing the decal like that on a grey press? Ken, is that normal?

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    I was thinking the same thing, I have a orange 55 with a sticker like that. Near as I could tell from the research I did it was born between 55 and 58, but then again you can't believe everything you read on the internet.

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    Yes, the decal is normal for a couple of years. Remember this is Leisure Products managing everything. It would appear that existing stock of decals was used up and no replacements ordered.
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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
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