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    Ideal no5

    Anyone running one seen one on ebay im sure i could find a use for it. Just about anything made in the good ole days catches my eye
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    I used mine, with the accompanying integral-handle Ideal 457124 mould, for my Garrett Sharps carbine in .45-70. It neck-sized the shells, sized and seated the boolits, re- and de- (after I made a replacement for the missing punch) capped the shells. The handles are big, so there was plenty of leverage, as tong tools go.

    Once the .45-70s started multiplying around here, I mostly went to more conventional loading arrangements.

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    I have a couple of #5s and several #5 Ms. They are excellent powder measures. I find them a little quicker to adjust than the #55, but that may just be me.

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    powder measure or loading tool ?

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    Powder measure
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    Sorry, thought you were talking about the loading tool. I use my #5 measure all the time for BPCR loads. Most charges stay within 0.5 gr, can get closer by judicious use of the knocker.

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    I figgured they would be just as good as a 55 if it isnt wore out. My theory is the older the better
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    NEWS FLASH!! The measure in the picture is not a plain old #5... it is a #5 Micrometer. This one doesn’t work well for very small charges but for medium on up to magnum, the micrometer adjust is awesome. I have several and it is the best I’ve found for the old IMR 4759 for 32-40. For a long time this measure was a well kept secret, but a select few are beginning to catch on. I grabbed mine while they were less well known thus cheaper to buy.

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    Thats just a google picture i thought id show the youngins what one was
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    I think fleabay has a couple no. Of course, 1 is priced in the clouds. they come by quit regular.

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    one problem is the the cylinder is steel. and if you leave power in it can rust
    they made the 55 with brass to stop that
    its nice to put in the curio cabinet works there better

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    Spray the powder cavities with Rust-Oleum primer paint that stops rust
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    Green Frog, I use a No 5 Micro to reload 22LR with BP. Drops 4.5gr of Swiss Null-B with every crank ... honestly
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    Hmmmmmmm.
    Ideal No. 5
    Yup.



    No problem with rust in Arizona. Lol. Made around the turn of the century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOA View Post
    Hmmmmmmm.
    Ideal No. 5
    Yup.



    No problem with rust in Arizona. Lol. Made around the turn of the century.
    That looks exactly like the barrel in my 55
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    MOA, yours was made by Lyman between 1926 and 1946. There no model variations of the No 5 other than the 5M so precise dating is impossible. The only distinction is the address. All Middlefield are Lyman, all New Haven's are Ideal or Marlin but for some reason Marlin never put there name on the No 5 or the No 1 sizer. They did on the moulds, tong tools and the big Armoury press.

    The No 5 has a large drum and two small slides. The early 55 has two small slides, though they are completely interchangeable. I put a 55 micrometer drum in a No 5 and called it the No 5-55. Just because I could.
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    Thanks for that bit o info now im really wanting one just for dropping blackpowder we'll see maybe one of these days
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    Pressman. Thanks for the info. Guess I was going by the information on other side of the hopper. Most likely patent dates not mfg dates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOA View Post
    Pressman. Thanks for the info. Guess I was going by the information on other side of the hopper. Most likely patent dates not mfg dates.
    You can just be fairly certain that production dates come after patent dates (unless they say “pat pending”.) you wouldn’t believe how many folks will try to convince you that a ‘30s vintage Ideal item is “turn of the Century” because of the molded in patent dates.

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    Here’s one for anyone looking along with some other nice stuff... was going to contact them on either the sizer or the 55

    https://spokane.craigslist.org/spo/d...186855867.html

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