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    I tried to like it.

    Came across a new Marlin 1895 cb 26Ē barrel in a gun shop today, Iíve been pondering over one of these for a while now but havenít seen one in the flesh, it was nice, not really heavy and felt pretty handy in the hand, the fit was ok but certainly not as nice as my old Marlins, I could get past that, the wood was very nice, even the ugly digital looking thing by the serial number I figured I could live with if I had to, but once I looked down the barrel and the front sight was canted off to the left I thought now that is ridiculous, I handed to the guy behind the counter and asked if it looked canted to him, his response, yea, but itís not too bad, I really wanted to like that rifle but I just canít, all I can think is what else is wrong with it, almost a thousand dollar rifle with canted sights, I just canít like Marlin again yet, I really want to, but not yet, some day maybe.

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    I just about wrapped a newer marlin around the owners head of the gun store here over the quality of the newer marlins After me and him got into a argument. I was asked to leave to say the least. The bean counters at Remington ought to be scalped for allowing those things to be sold to unsuspecting citizens. This aint china
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    The cant might be ok for a lefty .......
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    The kids bought me a new Marlin CB 45-70 for Fathers Day a couple years ago. Nice looking rifle for the price until you got to looking it over. I felt real bad when I had to ask them to take it back. The front sight wasn't even close to strait up and when I took a look at the barrel with a bore scope there were actual chunks missing out of the lands. When it was returned from the factory there was a target shot by someone out of some rifle with about a three inch group fired at 25 yrds. as proof that the rifle needed no repair. What a joke. We finally got our money back from Impact Arms after the owner got involved and told the manager to get it taken care of. I'm DONE with Remington-Marlin. There's a good reason they are going bankrupt. Gp

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    My last few marlins have been just dandy. Sorry you got a bad one.

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    Somehow I think this this always happens when the bean counters take over what was a quality gun company. Look at the stuff that went on at Winchester in 1964, we are still hearing about that 56 years and I don't know how many different owners later.

    Hopefully Remington and Marlin can come out okay, but maybe not. I know I will closely inspect anything from either of them that I think about buying in the future. Especially if it was made in the last fifteen years or so.

    The last Marlin I bought was a 336CB in .38-55, NIB, (made in 2001 IIRC).

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    I have a 2010 1895G . It's an honest 3" @100 rifle and I suspect that it had been sent back as well . The muzzle radius is weird more parabolic than radius with the steep side being on the crown . More than once I've considered planing about 3/16" off all the way around the fore end . I've the rear sight was too high so I added an Williams FP that gets it down to about 2" high at 100 instead of 6 . It will pop the lever when you get above CIP rated loads for the 45-70 which is 28 not 22 kpsi vs the 34 kpsi limit for modern levers . Fortunately I like TD level loads a lot more after a brief dalience with 250s at 2000 fps a sub sonic 500 gr is almost a plinking round .
    Over all it isn't a bad carbine . It's not a sniper rifle but it's plenty good enough for a woods/swamp gun to whack a pig or a whitetail , it would probably even be passable from moose or elk in the timber . I might have more complaints if I were a custom shop 96' kind of guy .
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    The bolt block should contact the bolt before the lever opens id take that to a knowledgeable gunsmith to check and make sure the block is the right shape size and dimensions. Cause if it is forcing the lever open you could catch a case of boltineye syndrome
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    Only happened with a couple of the real "high steppers" . It doesn't come full out it's possible that it was me during recoil bumping off the detent .
    In the time of darkest defeat,our victory may be nearest. Wm. McKinley.

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    Funny thing was the post64 Winchester Mod 94s wernt bad guns ,and cosmetically couldnt be faulted when new .....I bought a Marlin 1895 same time as 94 ,and the 95 ,even in 1973 ,was far worse finished than the Winchester.....even had small dents in the barrel whers the sights had been hammered into their dovetails ...(still there today,for the curious)......the blued finish was garbage,reciever done on a belt sander ,on the sides ,left sandblasted top and bottom......The bore was OK ,in those day ,no one would dare sell a gun with a bad bore.......The post 64 Winchester was streets ahead in fit,finish,and blueing.......even if sweat would strip the blueing from the metal quick smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john.k View Post
    Funny thing was the post64 Winchester Mod 94s wernt bad guns ,and cosmetically couldnt be faulted when new .....I bought a Marlin 1895 same time as 94 ,and the 95 ,even in 1973 ,was far worse finished than the Winchester.....even had small dents in the barrel whers the sights had been hammered into their dovetails ...(still there today,for the curious)......the blued finish was garbage,reciever done on a belt sander ,on the sides ,left sandblasted top and bottom......The bore was OK ,in those day ,no one would dare sell a gun with a bad bore.......The post 64 Winchester was streets ahead in fit,finish,and blueing.......even if sweat would strip the blueing from the metal quick smart.
    This is an interesting argument
    Heres my winchester timeline
    1) I own a post '64 model 70 in 22/250 - its a quality made rifle - good shooter - purty wood (after I refinished it and got rid of the original gunk finish) - I would not trade it for a pre '64 mauser style model 70 in a fit - its a far better gun.

    2) 22 rimfires - had a model 150 - junk alloy frame wore out - good barrel - passable cosmetically. They woke up eventually and presented the 94/22 - too good - too dear - too late!

    3) Post 64 30/30 - had one of those - they did stuff to cheapen the manufacture that made the action more clunky than the older ones but they put good barrels on them.

    4) Big Bore 94 in 375 Winchester - top eject model - about as good as a lever gun gets

    4) They tried to revive the finances with a steady parade of "collectibles" (I have an Oliver F Winchester)- what I have seen of those - most of the higher priced ones were well made - smoother action than the cheap 30/30's - but the garish finish put a lot of blokes off - and the "collector value" was less than zero in most cases

    The bean counters are about as smart as your average fence post - while winchester and marlin go slowly broke trying to sell cheap crap - the Italians and Japanese make hay selling quality made reproductions - there was a market there all the time!!

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    I have heard that miroku is making good rifles i hope to get a miroku highwall if i can ever git some riches saved up
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    Sorry to hear that..
    My remmy standard model 95 is easily the best Marlin I've ever owned, but I judge by accuracy.
    It shoots cloverleafs with just about any ammo that fits,, including my ranchdogs at up to max loadings...
    If any of the 3 old 336's Ive owned shot anywhere even close,, Id still own them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by osteodoc08 View Post
    My last few marlins have been just dandy. Sorry you got a bad one.
    I was thinking the same thing; I've only got one (1895GG) that I got a couple of years ago when WM was doing a clearance but it's nice and shoots very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozark mike View Post
    I have heard that miroku is making good rifles i hope to get a miroku highwall if i can ever git some riches saved up
    I have a browning (miroku made) model 71 - really well finished gun - but its made pre all the lawyer safety stuff

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    After reading lots of good reviews and videos I tried to be very optimistic about the rifle, and I had thought maybe since the cowboy model seems to be a lower production, more towards the upper end of Marlins selection they would apply a little more QC scrutiny towards them, but just a simple look down the barrel seems to be beyond their abilities, if I had several of the same rifle to sift through maybe I’d think different but for now I’d absolutely not buy one without handling it firsthand.

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    I had looked a new Remlin in Sportsman's Warehouse in Altoona, PA when I had visited my gf. Same thing, the site canted left. Showed it to the kid behind the counter who was kinda new but willing to learn. We discussed pros and cons of old Marlins and why I will not buy a new one until and if they get their act together. That was earlier this year.

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    The miroku (jap) rifles are very nice..... once the rebounding hammer is done away with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harter66 View Post
    The cant might be ok for a lefty .......
    i shoot the right way, LEFT handed, and they ain't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john.k View Post
    Funny thing was the post64 Winchester Mod 94s wernt bad guns ,and cosmetically couldnt be faulted when new .....I bought a Marlin 1895 same time as 94 ,and the 95 ,even in 1973 ,was far worse finished than the Winchester.....even had small dents in the barrel whers the sights had been hammered into their dovetails ...(still there today,for the curious)......the blued finish was garbage,reciever done on a belt sander ,on the sides ,left sandblasted top and bottom......The bore was OK ,in those day ,no one would dare sell a gun with a bad bore.......The post 64 Winchester was streets ahead in fit,finish,and blueing.......even if sweat would strip the blueing from the metal quick smart.

    i own a 1972 win m94 and i hated the sintered steel that they put on the action. the firing pin was broken(me) and was replaced in the early '80s.(took it to my gunsmith and he replaced it with pre 64 firing pin.) the barrel was ok, but JES got it and he rebored to 35/30-30. its on front sight number 4, but you can blame that on me, i threw the front sight hood away. the fit and finish are good but the wood is plain. my rear sight has been replaced with a williams fp sight, my eyes ain't what they used to be. but all in all, i luv her.
    "The religion of KE: proposed by the ignorant, and parroted by the unknowing" - MikeG

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