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Thread: 310 Tools on Fleabay Have Gone NUTZ!!

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    I think we ought to pool some knowledge here on this design to make it reliable so ya can market it. Im suprised lyman didnt keep that patent renewed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozark mike View Post
    I think we ought to pool some knowledge here on this design to make it reliable so ya can market it. Im suprised lyman didnt keep that patent renewed
    I'm with ya there - I suspect it might take quite a bit of cash and effort to get it rolling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pressman View Post
    The patent is long expired, the first tools date to about 1886. Lyman bought the Ideal Reloading Tool Co. in 1926, from Phineas P. Talcott who bought it from Marlin Arms Co in 1916, who bought it from John Barlow in 1910.

    I have one made especially for 7/8-14 dies. It works, sort of. c
    Case extraction from the die is a problem. It won't pull out far enough before the extractor hook slips off necessitating unscrewing the die and pulling and unscrewing the die and... several times.

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    I was going to say, I believe that the full size die tong tool was tired, but it didn't work well enough to catch on.
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    I saw a Lyman sizer die, the hammer in punch out type listed for $75. I'm sitting on about 20 or so and had a tough time getting $5 a few years back. Now I'm the winner, I'll undercut him and only charge $65.

    BTW, I've used them, they are not very good, horribly undersized IMHO.

    I started collecting them when I'd see them at gunshows listed for about $20. Sometimes get 2 sets for that. The odd one I paid more. Some sets were new, never used, some sets didn't have the correct dies in them. Most venders didn't know what they were.

    My nicest find was a #10 handle in 30 US. The bullet sizer is a bit wonky, my idea is to hone it out a bit and use it for 303 Br.

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    nitro-express, I don't think the common calibers of push through dies are bringing that kind of money, just the harder to find ones. For instance, you'd have a hard time giving a 30-06 away for free! BUT, I recently saw and bid on the first 32 S&W Long die I'd ever seen. I can't remember what it went for, but it was a bunch! The only ones I've made a serious effort to track down have been either for my handgun rounds I like to shoot or the old hyphenated calibers (32-40, 45-70) I use for single shots. The others hold little or no interest for me, but of course YMMV.

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    Haw! I saw this thread and remembered a set of 310 tools that I bought in 1966 and never used. After seeing the prices on e-bay I hot footed out and looked into a box I haven't looked in for 10 years, not only did I find the 310 tool and .45 APC and .30-06 dies for it NEW in Box but I found a bunch of dies I'll never need!

    Now I have trading material for my Lyman mold handles I need! Thanks to you guys!

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    I saw one bottom feeder on fleabay buy a pretty nice post War steel handle set in 32 S&W Long for just a little over my (fairly reasonable) bid, then immediately take it apart and put the handles up for more than he paid for the whole thing, each die individually for about a third of what he paid for the whole thing, and the empty box for about $30... all in all, he sold it in pieces for about three times what he paid for it within a week or ten days of buying it. Plus a nice, complete set has been broken up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Frog View Post


    I saw one bottom feeder on fleabay buy a pretty nice post War steel handle set in 32 S&W Long for just a little over my (fairly reasonable) bid, then immediately take it apart and put the handles up for more than he paid for the whole thing, each die individually for about a third of what he paid for the whole thing, and the empty box for about $30... all in all, he sold it in pieces for about three times what he paid for it within a week or ten days of buying it. Plus a nice, complete set has been broken up.

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    I have become my Father. The prices of 310 tools and dies, along with many, many other items, causes me to often say, "you want HOW MUCH for that!!!" I'm also like Dad in that I ain't gonna pay it.
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    I have my die sets from some years back. Pretty cheap, compared to today's prices. Got a couple of oddball pieces off Ebay this last year. Like others, saw some vendors breaking down sets and selling separately, pushing up the price. They are merely maximizing profit. Okay, it's capitalism, all I will say.
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    When I first joined Ohio Gun Collectors’ Association nearly 20 years ago, new and like new die sets for the 310 and TruLine Jr were commonly available for from five to fifteen dollars. I remember about ten years ago getting a 9mm Luger die set (310 Tool, black and grey striped Leisure Group box) and a 32 S&W Long set for the TL Jr in the old flat box with individual boxes for each die. Even through the amphibian haze of time I’m sure I paid ten bucks or less for each of those sets...Brand New In The Box! Try to find either one for five to ten times that today (and no, mine are being used and aren’t for sale!)

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    It's all the fault of those Lionel Train guys. They started it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperPuncher View Post
    It's all the fault of those Lionel Train guys. They started it.
    I’d give all my Lionel trains and accessories for a couple of guns and some reloading supplies!

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