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    Quote Originally Posted by 1hole View Post
    Goodness, that observation "triggers" you? And you truly believe Libs are the ones that make charity things "work"? Well, I'll have to get back to you about that one.



    Well, since what we say here is anonymous, I'm not really blowing my own horn can feel safe giving you a little of my "legacy":

    * I spent some 20 years of (unpaid) teaching Am. Red Cross programs in First Aid, CPR, Aquatic Lifesaving. (I also served 2 1/2 years as a local ARC Chapter chairman). Those tasks took a LOT of my "free" time.

    * When I was younger, tuffer and dummer, I spent 9 years as a volunteer Fire/Rescue EMT team member in the Smoky Mountains of N.C. (mostly patching up the remains of auto accidents); But it included some (very) dangerous SCUBA searching for aquatic casualties (I found two drowning victims); long, steep mountain searches and rescue of lost and injured folk (some of it on rock faces several hundreds of feet above a nice landing place and I once dove in the white water river in "Deliverance"). I've spent a few long, thunder stormy nights in cold, waist deep water finding and getting stranded people (and a few cows) out of flash floods and then provided a couple of families home shelter and food until the waters subsided; I was a Cub Scout pack leader for two years; I've given more than 3 gallons of blood and a good bit of plasma to the ARC (until I had a deadly heart attack and must take medicines that preclude me as a donor).

    If you count such things, I was an NRA Instructor for Firearms Safety and Rifle & Pistol Marksmanship in Titusville, FL, for a couple of years.

    I was a Sunday School and teen programs teacher for about 8 years.

    We've served as foster parents to four children who really needed help; one stayed with us for three years. We've never been financally secure but we didn't get a dime of assistance from anyone for those kids.

    I've helped building handicap ramps; repairing handrails, roofs, floors, steps, plumbing and electrical problems for injured, indigent or elderly people who couldn't do it themselves.

    I've worked some long, hard days with several ad hoc response teams obtaining, preparing and handling out food for the indigent. And, to get back to you about this, yes, we did have several Liberal "helpers" show up (we can usually spot them by their cars rash of PC bumper stickers). Libs typically come late (at least well after the drugework of setting up is done), they usually grab front line serving jobs (for the local "news" photo ops?), and they tend to disappear as soon as clean-up starts ... but, you're right, I have seen libs participate in "soup kitchens" ... a little, and Libs do talk a great deal about helping. But, down where the hard, unseen labor of helping people actually hits the road ... as a group, libs really aren't worth much; especially in the long haul!


    Okay, you asked and that's more than enough about my years of public service legacy; now tell us yours! Do you like to be up front making it all work by bravely handling hot ladles, etc., in soup kitchens?
    Interesting. I lived in Titusville Fl. twice for a total of more than 10 years.

    The point of the thread was not to compare accomplishments but to get people to think about what they are accomplishing. To try and get them do more to make the world a better place.

    I have worked for almost 40 years now helping advance our nation's space programs.

    Almost 10 years ago I joined with a coworker to start a new aerospace company when a bunch of us were laid off at the end of the Space Shuttle Program. This company now has around 50 employees.

    I have helped raise 4 stepchildren who were mostly abandoned by their fathers.

    I donated more than 5 gallons of blood.

    I have brought food to shut-ins and food to soup kitchens

    I have gone to schools to do STEM outreach to encourage students to learn more math and science.

    I have done repair projects for charities.

    I have helped with disaster recovery.

    Not every Lib has bumper stickers on their car.

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    Wow Griff, sounds like you live in California, like me.

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    All we are is what we leave behind. Simple enough...
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    helped 5 fatherless young fellows get thier firearms safety course completed, and showed them how to hunt and fish &respect thier elders, equiped them all with used fishing/hunting boats and necessary equip to match. Havent shot a partridge in 2 years and we always have venision bear and moose with fresh fish year round. And I have a fish/hunt partner at will, they still make time for my arthritic keester to join at camp if I dont show, they come and drag me out. ITS TRUE kids that fish, hunt, and trap dont mug little old ladies, but they will put a whuppin on those that do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtrubicon View Post
    Wow Griff, sounds like you live in California, like me.
    We live in the USSA.

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    Tim, what is NASA’s mission? A reasonable person would conclude they are wasting a lot of taxpayer money. There is no Constitutional authority whatsoever for NASA’s existence. NASA is full of bureaucrats and socialists that prioritize their continued existence at the expense of everyone else. We have no justification for looking for another place in the solar system for human habitation when there is plenty of room for improvement right here on Earth.
    I applaud you for starting a private company and finding a way to contribute to space exploration without resorting to expropriation from the productive sector of the economy, as NASA and the government are fond of doing. NASA should be defunded, audited and shut down, and space exploration fully privatized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangitgriff View Post
    Tim, what is NASA’s mission? A reasonable person would conclude they are wasting a lot of taxpayer money.
    You are correct. First rule for ALL gobbermint agencies is to consider their continued (and lavish) existence as their primary duty.

    Twelve years ago Obbamer appointed a black guy to head NASA and gave him the hugely important political task of finding spacey ways to make Muslims feel good about themselves. Never heard of the guy after that (and don't know if he's still in power) but it's obvious that he failed his first task.

    There is no Constitutional authority whatsoever for NASA’s existence.
    True. But politicians use the Constitutional phrase "to care for the public good" as a license for them do do anything they wish by saying it's for the public good. (You can thank our first socialist president, FDR (D) for that "cover it all" idea.) Dems use it so they can eternally seize more and more federal power; they say it's only done to "help" us deplorables in fly-over country, you know?

    NASA is full of bureaucrats and socialists that prioritize their continued existence at the expense of everyone else.
    Absolutely; see rule one.

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    Thinking about one's legacy feeds one of the deadly sins...pride.

    If we believe we are doing God's work, then where He directs us is what He needs done.

    Cleaning the toilet is not much of a "legacy" but it needs to get done. Many of the small things we do to help others may be viewed like that. Most of us would be better served by thinking not so much about our lauded accomplishments but the acts of Christianity that the Lord moves us to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dverna View Post
    Thinking about one's legacy feeds one of the deadly sins...pride.

    If we believe we are doing God's work, then where He directs us is what He needs done.

    Cleaning the toilet is not much of a "legacy" but it needs to get done. Many of the small things we do to help others may be viewed like that. Most of us would be better served by thinking not so much about our lauded accomplishments but the acts of Christianity that the Lord moves us to do.
    I like your thinking. We should make our families lives better on a daily basis. Many people who were out doing "God's work" regret the time they missed with their families while their kids were growing up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangitgriff View Post
    Tim, what is NASA’s mission? A reasonable person would conclude they are wasting a lot of taxpayer money. There is no Constitutional authority whatsoever for NASA’s existence. NASA is full of bureaucrats and socialists that prioritize their continued existence at the expense of everyone else. We have no justification for looking for another place in the solar system for human habitation when there is plenty of room for improvement right here on Earth.
    I applaud you for starting a private company and finding a way to contribute to space exploration without resorting to expropriation from the productive sector of the economy, as NASA and the government are fond of doing. NASA should be defunded, audited and shut down, and space exploration fully privatized.
    R/Griff
    There is a lot of truth is what you said but also some misconceptions. Nothing says the Government can't do things that are not required by the Constitution. Research and Development comes under the heading of "promote the general welfare." The Space Programs are more than just NASA. Spinoff technology from NASA R&D as added more to the economy than NASA's budget costs. Yes, NASA over the years has grown into a bloated bureaucracy and needs a good house cleaning and to has to hand more tasks to the private sector now that the private sector is advancing faster than NASA. The current NASA Administrator understands that but is hamstrung by Congress that can't let go of what benefits their states.

    NASA has tried to close some of their research centers but Congress always blocks them. Ohio went so far as to rename Lewis Research Center to Glenn Research Center to get more support in Congress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ickisrulz View Post
    I like your thinking. We should make our families lives better on a daily basis. Many people who were out doing "God's work" regret the time they missed with their families while their kids were growing up.
    I see this as circles within circles. The tightest circle is your immediate family, the next circle is extended family and friends, the next is your community and acquaintances, the next is your region of the world and last is the whole world. The tightest circles are the most important and should be your focus but you should not live in a bubble and not consider the whole world.

    Food for thought, who remembers the song "Cat's in the Cradle"

    Cat's in the Cradle
    Harry Chapin

    My child arrived just the other day
    He came to the world in the usual way
    But there were planes to catch, and bills to pay
    He learned to walk while I was away
    And he was talking 'fore I knew it, and as he grew
    He'd say "I'm gonna be like you, dad"
    "You know I'm gonna be like you"

    And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon
    Little boy blue and the man in the moon
    "When you coming home, dad?" "I don't know when"
    But we'll get together then
    You know we'll have a good time then

    My son turned ten just the other day
    He said, thanks for the ball, dad, come on let's play
    Can you teach me to throw, I said, not today
    I got a lot to do, he said, that's okay
    And he walked away, but his smile never dimmed
    It said, I'm gonna be like him, yeah
    You know I'm gonna be like him

    And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon
    Little boy blue and the man in the moon
    "When you coming home, dad?" "I don't know when"
    But we'll get together then
    You know we'll have a good time then

    Well, he came from college just the other day
    So much like a man I just had to say
    Son, I'm proud of you, can you sit for a while?
    He shook his head, and he said with a smile
    What I'd really like, dad, is to borrow the car keys
    See you later, can I have them please?

    And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon
    Little boy blue and the man in the moon
    "When you coming home, son?" "I don't know when"
    But we'll get together then, dad
    You know we'll have a good time then

    I've long since retired and my son's moved away
    I called him up just the other day
    I said, I'd like to see you if you don't mind
    He said, I'd love to, dad, if I could find the time
    You see, my new job's a hassle, and the kids have the flu
    But it's sure nice talking to you, dad
    It's been sure nice talking to you
    And as I hung up the phone, it occurred to me
    He'd grown up just like me
    My boy was just like me

    And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon
    Little boy blue and the man in the moon
    "When you coming home, son?" "I don't know when"
    But we'll get together then, dad
    We're gonna have a good time then

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    When I was in Bible school back in the 80's, the following question was raised:

    Two people are drowning. One person is a Christian and the other is a non-Christian. You can only rescue one. Which one will you rescue? Some people suggested rescuing the non-Christian because the Christian's place in heave was secured and the non-believer might come to faith one day. Others suggested rescuing the Christian because he could share the Gospel with others during his lifetime thereby ensuring they were saved. The question was answered by the man teaching the class using a biblical reference, which he always did:

    "Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers." Galatians 6:10.

    Do with that what you will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ickisrulz View Post
    When I was in Bible school back in the 80's, the following question was raised:

    Two people are drowning. One person is a Christian and the other is a non-Christian. You can only rescue one. Which one will you rescue? Some people suggested rescuing the non-Christian because the Christian's place in heave was secured and the non-believer might come to faith one day. Others suggested rescuing the Christian because he could share the Gospel with others during his lifetime thereby ensuring they were saved. The question was answered by the man teaching the class using a biblical reference, which he always did:

    "Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers." Galatians 6:10.

    Do with that what you will.
    It is an interesting thought exercise. Why would we be sure that the Christian's place in heaven was secured? How do we know they were in a state of grace. If saved how do we know they will not fall from grace. Still in my analogy of circles, the Christian is in another Christian's tighter circles. Part of the same community. The potential rescuer probably has no relationship with the drowning non-Christian. I think that is what the Bible verse is getting at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtknowles View Post
    It is an interesting thought exercise. Why would we be sure that the Christian's place in heaven was secured? How do we know they were in a state of grace. If saved how do we know they will not fall from grace. Still in my analogy of circles, the Christian is in another Christian's tighter circles. Part of the same community. The potential rescuer probably has no relationship with the drowning non-Christian. I think that is what the Bible verse is getting at.

    Tim
    I'm starting to think you may not be as biblical literate as you suggest. A believer can be assured of their position in Christ because of the love they show toward other believers and the fact their life is not mastered by sin (First Letter of John). Christians are recognized by their love for one another (per Jesus). The answers to your other questions can be found in the New Testament.
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    Right up to this second, I have survived all the slings and arrows but for the grace of God. That’s my legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ickisrulz View Post
    I'm starting to think you may not be as biblical literate as you suggest. A believer can be assured of their position in Christ because of the love they show toward other believers and the fact their life is not mastered by sin (First Letter of John). Christians are recognized by their love for one another (per Jesus). The answers to your other questions can be found in the New Testament.
    There are Christians and there are believers. There are Christians in the pews every Sunday who do not really believe and will not be saved. You know this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtknowles View Post
    There are Christians and there are believers. There are Christians in the pews every Sunday who do not really believe and will not be saved. You know this.

    Tim
    Christians are believers who have secured their salvation through Christ. Those who don't believe but identify as "Christian" are nominal Christians and fall outside my definition of a Christian. I thought I have been clear on this.

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