rifle equivalent

[luckyday]

Since you already have the .308 then just download it as described above. Yes, you can use the same flat nose bullets you can use in the 30-30 and get exactly the same performance.

I don't know about double lung, but my dad once shot a deer with his 30-30 and it jumped a five foot fence and went almost 100 yds before it fell. When we cut it open it had less than half a heart - he had heart shot it and it still went that far.

Sometimes a deer is is dead but he just doesn't know it yet.

[tazman]

I don't know about double lung, but my dad once shot a deer with his 30-30 and it jumped a five foot fence and went almost 100 yds before it fell. When we cut it open it had less than half a heart - he had heart shot it and it still went that far.

I had something similar happen a few years ago with a bow shot deer. I made, what I found out later, was a perfect heart shot with a three bladed broadhead. The deer ran 75 yards and piled up. When field dressed, the heart had a big, three bladed hole right through the top of it. Holes on both sides of the deer were pumping out blood the entire distance.
The deer was easy to track at least.

I realize that an arrow doesn't give the same the same shock value that a bullet would but the distance covered with a hole in the heart is significant.

[JoeJames]

I was thinking also about the old 30 Caliber Remington. This from Wiki:The .30 Remington cartridge was created in 1906 by Remington Arms. It was Remington's rimless answer to the popular .30-30 Winchester cartridge. Factory ammunition was produced until the late 1980s, but now it is a prospect for handloaders. Load data for the .30-30 Winchester can be used safely for the .30 Remington. Wikipedia

[jaysouth]

I load .308 hunting rounds for a 90 lb niece. I use a 150 gr. flat nose jacketed (made for .30-30) with 28 grs. of H4895. That particular load penetrated over 20 inches of a 400 lb feral pig. Two rounds put the pig down dead right there on the spot. She has killed several meat does for the freezer and a coyote using that load.

[charlie b]

and my first thought was cast bullets in my .308, although FUN,,,, the amount of lead fouling, and the chamber not liking cast bullets over 150 grains for some reason..... its a toss

This is interesting as I have never had problems with my .308. The chamber issue is the throat length. Get a bore riding design, like the Lyman 311299, RCBS 200 or the Lee designs. I use the Accurate 31-210E and ordered it to fit my bore.

Use gas checks. Fit the bullet to your throat and bore. I use powder coated but lubed also will work. If your rifle is a 1:10 twist then keep your velocity down to 1900fps or so (which sounds like what you want to do anyway).

[dverna]

Grab a loading manual, compare the two, and load the .308 down a bit to approx. equal .30-30 bullets & speeds.

Did not bother reading any further. You already have a .308. Just download it. Easy to do. .308 brass is more plentiful than .30/30 brass and less expensive. 1000 LC brass should last a very long time.

If you want an excuse for a new toy, there are used .30/30 bolt actions out there but you can buy a lot of components for the same $$$ and use the gun you have.

Here is a way to start:

https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploa...215.1540749272

[DDriller]

You might look into a .30 HRT or TAC 30. Both are based of 6.8 spc brass and formed with .30 Herrett dies.

[444ttd]

in a recent auction, i bought a rem m14 in 30 remington that was made in 1925. right now its at my gunsmith's. the remington needed a cleaning to its basic parts, since i only have one arm, the gunsmith will do it!!!!!!

i paid a little too much for it(it was $230) but i like spiral flutes on the magazine tube. then i go to grafs website and got 30 rem dies and 30 rem brass. i don't what the bore size is, but i hope to take 165gr ranch dog and take it to 1900-2000fps.

back then, my little brother(12 yo) used a rem m700 adl in 30-06. i loaded up 170gr sierra fn with imr4895 and the recoil was about 30-30 levels. in a 308 loaded with 150gr and 4895 should cause no problems.

and my first thought was cast bullets in my .308, although FUN,,,, the amount of lead fouling, and the chamber not liking cast bullets over 150 grains for some reason..... its a toss

in my tc encore with 23" MGM barrel in the 444 marlin has over 1500 cast boolits threw it and the bore is shiny and bright as the day it was made. i haven't cleaned the bore for about 6 or 7 years. the 1898 spr armory in 30-40 krag has well over 3000 cast boolits threw her, and she is also shiny and bright. its all about the boolit fit. i have, on average, a .002" overfit on boolits. ( if the bore/chamber is .308" then .310" boolit size) that will take care of your lead fouling. not liking boolits over 150gr, i can't help you with that. ...............maybe a lovern boolit with a hp?
https://www.mountainmolds.com/phpBB3...opic.php?t=242

[richhodg66]

Huh are you talking about the lever guns made by marlin the last few years OR just leverguns in general. If its just the newer marlins find you a older lever gun like a jm or winchester and henry makes good guns also. I have never met someone who hated levers in general.

Yeah, I'm still trying to understand that silliness myself.

[richhodg66]

and my first thought was cast bullets in my .308, although FUN,,,, the amount of lead fouling, and the chamber not liking cast bullets over 150 grains for some reason..... its a toss

If you're getting lead fouling at .30-30 levels, you clearly don't know what your doing with cast. Read up some more, lots of subject matter experts on here.

As has been said, the .308 is almost ridiculously easy to make into a ballistic twin of the .30-30. Easiest and cheapest way since you already have the rifle.

[rking22]

Pocket ace was banned within a day or so of joining(rejoining?), probably for trolling with the type posts quoted above. I responded to one thread, then found several more with like trolling, assumed he was trying to make post minimum foe S and S.
Love my 30 Rem M141, but brass and dies can be pricey. Mine has a short throat but takes the Ranchdog just fine if seated a bit deeper. Feeds fine as well. Be careful of OAL, a too long round creates a really interesting jam! Look up the mad COAL and do not exceed.
Also 308 makes a fine 30-30 make do, and I’ve had no real issues getting good accuracy.

[farmbif]

most people are trying to go the other way, get 308 performance out of a 30-30, want to shoot 150 gr bullet out of 308 at 2200 fps, load 32 grains of h4895 in the 308 win shell and that should get you right about there

[rockrat]

I have been loading 308 with either Nosler 125 bt, Hornady 125 sst or Sierra 125 HP 30-30 bullets, using imr4895. Velocities about 2500fps

[GhostHawk]

There are many .30-30's that are not lever actions.

Break action H&R handi rifle types.
Bolt actions. I know there are Rem 788's out there in 30-30 that do a terrific job.

Find something that suits you.

[farmbif]

savage model 24 was chambered in 30-30, very easy operating gun.

[Omega]

I was lead to buy a 30-30 when I was stationed at Ft Bragg in the 80s, it did fine at close range but could not reach out much further than 150-200 yards without serious hold-over so went .270 win. Then, lever and bolt, with a few autos, were it, but now if those are the ballistics you seek, there are countless rifles in many calibers that would do that, many listed above. I would say though, if just seeking a softer recoil, then ARs are what you seek, you can shoot full power .308 win and get much less recoil. If bolt is your action of choice, then 300 Blk is pretty comparable to a 30-30, I have a Rem 700 in that caliber and it is a joy to shoot, but I did add more weight with the night scope, so that helps with muzzle climb. As to levers, yea I get some may not take to them, my only one currently is a Browning in .308, much better handling than the Winchester I first used, but still prefer a bolt, just my preference.

[Lloyd Smale]

not 3030 level but ive shot a half a dozen deer with a 300 bo shooting the 110 barnes x bullet at about 2300 fps and it kills as well as a 3030. Ive killed deer cleanly out to 200 yards with it. Like was said the old 30 rem, 762x39, or like you said just download a 308 and use bullets made for the 3030.