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    7x58 Mauser ammo question

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    Finished a M95 Chilean Mauser project this spring and have the opportunity to take it out for black bear next month. Currently not set up to load the round, and I was looking for recommendations on a commercial round the isn't too hot for the action yet potent on black bears.
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    7x57? If you can find it Hornaday makes a good 139gr soft point ammo for meduim game, ppu also make soft point ammo for 7x57 mauser as well.

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    Grafs has federal in stock, both 140gr and 175gr

    https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog...productId/3852

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    The 7x57 Mauser cartridge was developed in 1892; there are so many old and obsolescent arme out there that the modern commercial cartridges you might find have been loaded down significantly and should be safe in your Chilean Mauser.
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    7x57 is a low pressure cartridge. Go buy any factory and you will be fine. It is loaded down as others said.

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    If you want higher pressure/ velocity factory loads, look at Norma

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    I think you will find that PPU, S&B, Norma and other Euro brands a bit stouter than Remington, Winchester, & Federal ammo. 7x57mm has been getting it done for 127 years so no worries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenmntranger View Post
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    Finished a M95 Chilean Mauser project this spring and have the opportunity to take it out for black bear next month. Currently not set up to load the round, and I was looking for recommendations on a commercial round the isn't too hot for the action yet potent on black bears.
    The Hornady Is good but either the Winchester or Remington 175 RN factory loads would be an excellent choice. Out of my M95 Chilean with barrel cut to 22" they run 2300+ fps at 50,000 psi +/- (measured) with very good accuracy. Federal factory 175 RN also is an excellent choice running 2400 fps at 55,000 psi.

    Don't let those actual psi figures worry you. Older pressure figures (even if expressed as "psi") were based of C.U.P. method of measurement. That is different from transducer/strain gauge pressure measurement. I've tested quite a bit of milsurp 7x57 ammunition loaded, even some DWM 1918, for the SR Mauser actions and have found the pressure of the Chilean FMF milsurp ammunition runs 55,000 psi +/- as measured in my own Chilean M95.
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    The 7x57 was very popular with some African plains hunters and is very under appreciated here in the states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenmntranger View Post
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    Finished a M95 Chilean Mauser project this spring and have the opportunity to take it out for black bear next month. Currently not set up to load the round, and I was looking for recommendations on a commercial round the isn't too hot for the action yet potent on black bears.

    If it's in good condition & the headspace is OK, ALL commercial 7x57 ammo is safe in your Mauser...……



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    I have (2) 7X57 rifles - a 77 ruger and an all original like new 1895 Mauser.
    None of the factory loads with light bullets or light bullet hand loads shot much better than 1.5". The Federal 175 grn RN factory loads and the Hornady 175grn RN and Herters 175 grn RN bullets were also very accurate but have been discontinued.
    The 175 grn Hornady spitzer also shot well but stay away from all those boat tailed bullets.
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    Those Mauser's were originally designed for a 175 gr RN and depending on the twist rate of your rifle the 175 gr RN might give you the best accuracy. And it is certainly potent enough for black bear.
    I have (3) 7x57's: a Ruger #1, a Mauser 1895, and a Remington Rolling Block #5.
    I have shot factory J's and reloads in the #5 without a problem. But I did replace the main spring on that action and the action itself is in excellent condition: no slop and no headspace problems. Usually though I shoot 175 gr RN cast in the #5.
    I am sure the factory ammo is loaded down due to the number of old 7x57's still out there.
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    haven't taken any game with it yet but I've had really good accuracy with Sellier & Bellot's 173gr JSP. getting around an 1" at 100 out of a semi sporterized M48 scout rifle.

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