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    Quote Originally Posted by dragon813gt View Post
    This would effect me more than most since I travel for work. A lot of places have large service areas. Sheetz is certainly one of them. People traveling through from out of area would obviously be effected. But a gift card is better than being told to round up or no purchase at all.
    The round up thing has been going on for a while, even before the pandemic. At least one on-line vendor has been doing the round up for the NRA for years. My local pet store has round up for the Humane Society and now CVS has round up for some medical charity. It is not just to avoid change as they still give you the option when using a credit card. I have mostly been using credit cards for all my purchases for years and years to get the cash back bonus of course you probably know that Gun Shop and Gun Show vendors charge extra to use a credit card. I carry cash and carry extra to gun shows but mostly use the cards.

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    Never said the round up thing was new. But there’s a difference between being asked to round up and being told you have to round up if you want to purchase something. Large retailers have no excuse not to issue gift cards as change.

    The “cash discount” is both good and bad. It’s good because in theory the retailer is not spreading out the 3% fee across all items they have for sale. But you also don’t know if this is actually the case. And since I pay w/ a CC I end up paying the higher price. This is a personal decision and I’m not blaming anyone.

    I’ve been kind of chuckling at the notion that this is the point where they are forcing us to a cashless society. Cash is used in 30% of all transactions in the US. That means 70% is paid for w/ other means. Now it is used 55% for transactions under $10. We have been a mostly cashless society for an long time. About the only place I use cash is foreign countries. And this isn’t for any other reason than bringing some paper notes and coins back as souvenirs. Cash is certainly king in Europe where it’s used for 80% of all transactions.

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    One thing some businesses don't understand,,, coins & paper money are all "Legal Tender for all debts, both public & private." So, if I go to buy something,, and they refuse to accept my cash,, OR give me correct change,, I have a few options.
    One, I'd first request a manager,, politely explain the law about Legal Tender, and see if they will accept it or not,, and or make correct change. If management refuses, then I'll politely tell them the next conversation we'll have, will be in court,, as I sue them,,, for operating an illegal business & violating Federal laws of commerce. And of course,, I'll be discussing my lawsuit with as many public outlets of news media as I can.

    I was in my local Wally World of Walmartians a few days ago with a friend. I have almost stopped shopping there anyway,, but he needed some stuff,,, and since I'd just picked him up from the hospital,, I was going to keep an eye on him.
    We could not use the self check option due to "card only" purchase rules there. So we both got into a line,, side by side. There were only 2 live tellers working,, and they were busy,, with folks using cash.
    I was at the back of the line when a floor mgr asked me; "Are you paying by card?" I said, (politely) "No,, I always use cash." Then, I politely asked him why didn't he open a few more cashier lines up. He looked a little bewildered,, and walked away. A guy got behind me, and soon after,, the same mgr came along & asked him about card purchases. (BTW; The self check area was empty.)
    That guy also was paying cash.
    I stopped the floor mgr and asked for the store mgr. He looked at me funny & I said; "You are creating problems by not having enough cashiers,, or by not being willing to accept cash as a form of payment." He left, and shortly, he got a 3rd line opened. I was first in that line. Then, my buddy was stuck in his line, so I had to wait. So, I went over to the "Customer Service" desk, and asked for the store mgr. When she came out,, I politely told her that they needed to re-think their policy about how business transactions were being handled. Cash money is legal tender,,, and by not accepting it was causing extreme slow downs in checkouts. Plus,, no matter what,, the same number of folks will be using cash so, either fix the machines to accept cash again, or hire more cashiers.
    Of course, she apologized, and said she was just following corporate rules,, and that they were experiencing a coin shortage. I said; "But the same number of people will still need correct change!"
    She was basically bewildered.

    I told her,, that due to several different little business decisions I'd seen wally world make over the years,, I have CHOSEN as a customer,, to spend my money in other places. I mentioned that I USED to shop there 2-3 times a week. Now,, it's maybe 2-3 times a month,, if THEY are lucky.

    Since this beer virus pandemic crap started,, we Americans have been subjected to all kinds of restrictions,, that often are UN-Constitutional or illegal. If we keep following the mandates & act like sheeple,, we'll be herded like sheep to slaughter. We have to do whatever little we can do to stand our ground, and show others what is wrong. As long as we do it legally & politely.

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    Another media generated ploy or do they just want you to turn in all of your 'coins'! Think of all the 'coins' that are buried out in the wild and those that are found decades, hundreds of years and in some cases thousands of years later. Can plastic or paper survive like that?
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    A friend just told me he couldn't find any canning jar lids anywhere within reasonable driving distance of Glencoe
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonB_in_Glencoe View Post
    A friend just told me he couldn't find any canning jar lids anywhere within reasonable driving distance of Glencoe
    It’s normal around here for them to disappear from shelves around this time. Only places that sell them are Walmart and one grocery chain. So it’s very limited stock to begin w/.

    I did check Amazon. None available w/ Prime and prices are high. This is exactly why I put new lids on every jar after cleaning and keep enough packaged lids for every jar I own. That gives me a two year supply if I use every jar I have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragon813gt View Post
    It’s normal around here for them to disappear from shelves around this time. Only places that sell them are Walmart and one grocery chain. So it’s very limited stock to begin w/.

    I did check Amazon. None available w/ Prime and prices are high. This is exactly why I put new lids on every jar after cleaning and keep enough packaged lids for every jar I own. That gives me a two year supply if I use every jar I have.
    well, there is likely 30+ stores within 40 miles of Glencoe that carry lids this time of year. The only other time I seen empty shelves at a particular store, is when that particular store had a sale.

    2020 is definitely the year of shortages.
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    It is incredible how gullible some people are! When you use 'plastic' you don't need change, unless you are getting 'cash' back. The change 'shortage' is very contrived! Think back ten years and how popular the 'coin' bottles were for a "defacto savings bank"! Anyone still looking for toilet paper?
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    Quote Originally Posted by trebor44 View Post
    It is incredible how gullible some people are! When you use 'plastic' you don't need change, unless you are getting 'cash' back. The change 'shortage' is very contrived! Think back ten years and how popular the 'coin' bottles were for a "defacto savings bank"! Anyone still looking for toilet paper?
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    The grocery store here was completely out of Windex the last time I looked. All varieties of it. I don’t know what’s up with that. The only glass cleaner they had was an aerosol type called “Sprayway”.

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    Gold is in short supply, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangitgriff View Post
    Gold is in short supply, too.
    Actually the gold supply has increased, the price is up because of increased demand a lot as some people are going risk off expecting the recession to be long and deep. You do know we are in a recession, right? You can get all the gold you want, no shortage but you will have to pay a pretty penny.

    https://www.jmbullion.com/gold/gold-...20Gold%20Coins

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    Demand will outstrip supply as soon as the next market crash, when investors flee ETFs looking for safe-haven assets.
    Not to mention Russia, China, India & their regional neighbors stockpiling gold to back their sovereign currencies and facilitate non-dollar-denominated trade to avoid Washington’s (illegal) economic sanctions.
    Oh, yes—the USD’s days are numbered. Like Peter Schiff recently opined, gold is going to the moon, and if you want to preserve your wealth you better make sure you’re on that rocket before it takes off.
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    There is a shortage of looter targets in Minor Hill , other than that i got everything I need with more on the way . Local WM now only takes cards so I been told . I can't imagine a store getting away with not accepting US currency and being able to stay in business .
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    Well, Eddie, I can’t imagine living in a socialist dictatorship under government rule, but here we are.
    The Federal Reserve is pushing for a digital currency to aid in manipulating the economy down to the individual bank accounts of every American. What could go wrong, there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerbeans View Post
    I know where all the coins are, in a big jar on my kitchen counter. I can't lift the dang thing.

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    Same with me but it's not in the kitchen won't fit there, and the bank lobby has been closed since March so how do we cash in our coins?
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    There are more important things to me than some mineral out of the ground for all i care we could go back to the bartering system. I got food and water up in the hills can live without most modern convinces for crying out loud my main vehicle is a 67 ih. People need to let go of these devices of men is how the bible puts it.
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    they have been wanting a cashless society for several decades. and the mint is actually an entity run by companies making private coins and such. they actually do the wrapping for bank coin rolls

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