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Thread: Lyman 358430

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    Lyman 358430

    I have "discovered" this bullet recently. I probably knew of it but as RN in general barely get an acknowledgment from Me

    I have been experimenting with the 350 legend and This bullet might be better than the rcbs 210 for my needs. I also shoot 35Rem, 357 Max 357 Mag as well.

    A HP version would be even better!

    I see Al has what appears to be a version. In his 360-197. Any one confirm that? Meaning is it a copy. I might have to call Al and ask.

    Just seeking experience from Our cast knowledge base here with this bullet.

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    A very cool & old cast boolit...our LE boys of old used it and called it a 'Pelvis Breaker' and for good reason.
    Here it's loaded and compared to the Lyman 358311, 358429 & 358477...it's in .38S cases.



    I sent Jamie (JH586) these uncoated & unsized (bhn 16 I think?) and he had good results in the 350L or was it the 358 Eagle, not sure...same animal different size.


    Did a couple videos on this cast too...

    200 grain 38 Special_Lyman 358430
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Uxqy3xpgw

    200g 38S Jug Busters _ Super Police Load of yesteryear
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK969_kkeIM

    Kenny (EagleEyeShooting) ran several of the numbers in his Quick Load and this is what I based my work-up on here...


    Here's the results of the work-ups...



    This is one of yesteryears great casts ... hope you do some videos and help bring this cast to the attention of the 350L shooters.

    Keeping our 'oldies' alive and well...
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    I was hoping you would comment Charlie!!

    Yes of coarse I have watched those and they have severely contributed to this affection!

    I have also watched Kennys videos but he mostly zinked them IIRC. No interest in that.

    I have all those molds sans the 430. I dont use the 311 at all. Well a lil in the 38 Super but I like the Saeco #383 better there. I love my 358429 in solid and HP!!

    The 477 is classic. I cast a pile last month in my own 1:10 - 1:16 - 1:20 testing.

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    The 311 is a nostalgic round for me ... it's the factory round that Dad used to give me to shoot his snubby when I was a kid.

    I wanted to see how close I could make a PC'd 311 look to those of days of old...
    (it's the 3'rd from the right & the one to it's left is a clear coated version)

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    Almost the same boolit as the Lyman 35875 I have both the 358430& the 358430 both drop 200grain boolits+/- 2grains I think the 35875 is just a little flatter nosed than the 358430. I've done better with the NOE 360200 in my 357Maximums, never tried it in the 38's or 357's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OS OK View Post
    A very cool & old cast boolit...our LE boys of old used it and called it a 'Pelvis Breaker' and for good reason.
    Here it's loaded and compared to the Lyman 358311, 358429 & 358477...it's in .38S cases.



    I sent Jamie (JH586) these uncoated & unsized (bhn 16 I think?) and he had good results in the 350L or was it the 358 Eagle, not sure...same animal different size.


    Did a couple videos on this cast too...

    200 grain 38 Special_Lyman 358430
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Uxqy3xpgw

    200g 38S Jug Busters _ Super Police Load of yesteryear
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK969_kkeIM

    Kenny (EagleEyeShooting) ran several of the numbers in his Quick Load and this is what I based my work-up on here...


    Here's the results of the work-ups...



    This is one of yesteryears great casts ... hope you do some videos and help bring this cast to the attention of the 350L shooters.

    Keeping our 'oldies' alive and well...
    Nice job written like a Pro
    I started out with nothing and I still have most of it left.
    Paralyzed Veterans of America

    Looking for a Hensly &Gibbs #258 any thing from a two cavity to a 10cavity

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    OS OK. I loved the song in the video background. Who is that?
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    Agreed great choice Charlie!!

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    I love 358430. I have a few 2 cavs and a 6-cav of that one.
    KE4GWE - - - - - - Colt 1860, it just feels right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluejay75 View Post
    OS OK. I loved the song in the video background. Who is that?
    It's from a 'free, no copyright site' called 'Looperman' the song is called "I am a King" and recorded by someone called Haven McInerney.
    If you use anything musical on the Y-Tube that is copyrighted your in for trouble, they put a strike against you and collectively the strikes can get you kicked off the Y-Tube.
    Haven does some good music, I like it also.
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    Good to know!!!

    I have a couple songs selected for upcoming videos.... Maybe I need to re think that.

    I called Al but he is a busy man!! Ill try again another day.

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    Cool thread, Thanx...........
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    If you like those heavy bullets but want something with a flat nose the Ranchdog 190 works rather well , I load mine to just under cylinder length so you don't take up a lot of case capacity . With or without a gascheck they shoot pretty well
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    Thanks and Your 100%. I have that mold!!

    I also have a WFN 190 that I like allot. But taht ine is just a bit too "fat" to chamber unless very deep seated.

    The RD works well But dosent feed as well.

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