Trail Boss powder question

[LUCKYDAWG13]

I have never used Trail boss powder before but I keep reading that it's great for reduced loads So i picked up a can today to try out what's a good load for a 44 magnum and 240 gr boolit and can it be used in 357 and 454 also
just looking for steel plinking and paper punching loads

" wanted to know if it would be better then Unique fore reduced loads "

[Conditor22]

start at 70% case capacity to where the boolit seat to

https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploa...056.1584755607

[BigAlofPa.]

Just checked Hodgdon site. Looks like it would be dandy for plinking.
https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol

[LUCKYDAWG13]

start at 70% case capacity to where the boolit seat to

https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploa...056.1584755607

yes i have seen this thank you I guess I'm asking if it will be better then using Unique for reduced loads

[Bwana John]

yes i have seen this thank you I guess I'm asking if it will be better then using Unique for reduced loads

It won't be less expensive.

I think it might be better for the larger volume cartridges.

I wouldnt bother with calibers that are low volume and low pressure to begin with.

I have used it mostly for rifle.

For 375 HH, and 416 Rigby it's great.

I went back to unique for my 70 gr mouse fart 30-06 loads

Unique was superior for a old 310 Cadet.

I have used it for Pistol to start new reloaders, can't accidentally put too much into a 45 acp case.

[djryan13]

Unique will meter better so I would use that if you have it. I use it in some 45 colt and 30-06 loads (both I use with a suppressor - clean fast burning powder).

[LUCKYDAWG13]

Ok that's what I wanted to know then i may have to pick up a couple of pounds then just for larger calibers and just stick with Unique for 357 / 44

[dannyd]

Ok that's what I wanted to know then i may have to pick up a couple of pounds then just for larger calibers and just stick with Unique for 357 / 44

TB comes in 9oz and 5 pounds only.

[uscra112]

Trail Boss is a fast powder but not very energetic. Don't expect an increase in charge weight to produce a commensurate increase in MV. Stick to the book.

Full disclosure: I bought a canister several years ago to try. Suffice to say that I still have 1/2 of it left and would give it away if I could find a fellow shooter whom I could be sure I'd never meet again.

[Chill Wills]

I don't think it is good or bad.
It does not do anything that another powder could not do.

On the other hand, as said, it is bulky and hard to over load.
I think that your 44 mag. is exactly the case TB is good at loading.
It does not need to be great metering, as the small amounts different dropped in a 44 at plinking distance will go unnoticed.

Think of it as a very very bulky Red Dot powder that you can't double charge.
However!!! IMR says, Don't compress it! It is said that pressures climb fast.
70% to 100% of the cases unused volume under the seated bullet is the working load.

The only rifle cartridges I have used it in are the 38-55 and the 45-70 for light 50 meter chicken loads.

[Savvy Jack]

start at 70% case capacity to where the boolit seat to

https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploa...056.1584755607

Did ya'll actually read this information? It says right there....and I quote! "Where data is already shown for specific cartridges, never exceed listed maximums."

44 Magnum data is available https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol

For some low pressure cartridges like the 44-40, the 70% rule will exceed max pressures.

[dannyd]

Trail Boss is a fast powder but not very energetic. Don't expect an increase in charge weight to produce a commensurate increase in MV. Stick to the book.

Full disclosure: I bought a canister several years ago to try. Suffice to say that I still have 1/2 of it left and would give it away if I could find a fellow shooter whom I could be sure I'd never meet again.

Took me 7 years shoot 5 lbs. And like you still have some left.

[Froogal]

Cowboy action, my wife shoots a Cimarron in .357. I was loading those .357s with 5.5 grains of Unique under a 158 grain LRN. As an experiment, I loaded up some .38 specials with 4 grains of TrailBoss under the same 158 grain LRN. She likes those .38s a lot better, and her accuracy is a lot more consistent. Those .38s perform just fine in the Rossi rifle also, so I think we are going to stick with that combination. It ain't always about velocity, or how much noise it makes, or how hard it hits.

[Savvy Jack]

It ain't always about velocity, or how much noise it makes, or how hard it hits.

I think that is what the OP was talking about. Trail Boss for 240gr 44 Magnum plinking loads.

just looking for steel plinking and paper punching loads

[cwlongshot]

I like it. Its another "trick" ya can pull when ya need a sub or lo vel choice.

As stated easy peasy dats. Figure powder cap when bullet is seated. Subtract 30% call that a STARTING LOAD. Now just dont pass 100% so NO COMPRESSING! And your good!

Its NOT LOW PRESSURE, its LOW VELOCITY.

OnLY issues I have had was with jacketed. I wont use for jacketed any
More. But for cast its great. Esp when the cases get really big!!

I shoot 25g in my 358 NM with a 190 Ranch Dog at about 1700 fps! Thats enough to shoot deer and hogs up close!

CW

[dannyd]

Cowboy action, my wife shoots a Cimarron in .357. I was loading those .357s with 5.5 grains of Unique under a 158 grain LRN. As an experiment, I loaded up some .38 specials with 4 grains of TrailBoss under the same 158 grain LRN. She likes those .38s a lot better, and her accuracy is a lot more consistent. Those .38s perform just fine in the Rossi rifle also, so I think we are going to stick with that combination. It ain't always about velocity, or how much noise it makes, or how hard it hits.

She may have more fun if you drop that down to 3 grains.

[MT Gianni]

To misquote the late Jeff Cooper "It's an interesting solution to a non existent problem".

[cwlongshot]

Haha. Did he really say that??

I say that myself all the time. "A solution to a non existent problem!!" Drives some of my guys nuts. But I tell them just cause YOU have a issue with something dosent always mean EVERYONE will!!

CW

CW

[djryan13]

See, I disagree. I haven’t found a cleaner burning powder in my 30-06 subsonic suppressed load. And the fact it fills the case enough that double charge is impossible, I am super happy with it.

Folks who say things like that probably haven’t looked at enough possibilities in its use. Just my opinion....

[MT Gianni]

Haha. Did he really say that??

I say that myself all the time. "A solution to a non existent problem!!" Drives some of my guys nuts. But I tell them just cause YOU have a issue with something dosent always mean EVERYONE will!!

CW

CW

That was his comment on DA pistols as he was so wedded to the 1911.