Looks like another gadget I have no intention on buying
Looks like another gadget I have no intention on buying
NRA Endowment Member
International Ammunition Association
New York, the Empire State Where Empires were Won and Lost
Well, the problem isn't if we know what we're talking about; the problem is a lot of other folk won't know for sure what we're talking about. Like, if happen to tell someone I have three bullets in my pocket he may think I know what I'm talking about and believe me OR he may think I have three cartridges.
Words mean something. Being sloppy with our language by saying one thing when we mean another is not conducive to good communications, especially if one knows what he's talking about. That's how all autoloading rifles of any type and caliber have come to be evil "powerful military assault" rifles and it's very hard to intelligently discuss anything about that issue with the ignorant. (I think ignorant is a valid synonym for Democrat but none of them agree with me, they all think they're much more intelligent than average Americans no matter how dumb they are.) [Witness: The supposedly lovely and obviously semi-brilliant 30 year old Mz. A.O.C. from NYC!]
Vernacular is one thing but there being no reference to "heads" on any box of factory bullets makes me wonder if that guy had ever bought a box of bullets or even read a reloading book! Or had he ever gone to a sports store wanting a box of .30-30 bullets in a 20 round box labeled "CARTRIDGES", etc.!
And those reloaders who call mechanical powder measures "powder throwers"; where in the world did they get that name?
Ah, well ... we in the South know we can alway tell the Irish, we can always tell the Dutch, we can always tell a Yankee but we cannot tell him much! (No offense intended to the north but southerners will know exactly what I'm talking about! )
There is no Excuse for bad terminology. Loaders should No better
NRA Endowment Member
International Ammunition Association
New York, the Empire State Where Empires were Won and Lost
Just don’t trust any terminology from ar15.com.
Sometimes life taps you on the shoulder and reminds you it's a one way street. Jim Morris
I was banned for life from another well known site for precision shooters for calling COAL from the tip of the bullet to the cartridge base, and not from the base to the datum on the bottleneck and the space between the bolt face and a chambered round "headspace"...I was told that isn't what SAAMI defines as headspace. Well, everyone I know recognizes it as headspace, and Phil Sharpe defined it as such in his book, and I see it all over the i'net, but I guess that moderator got his panties on a bunch. He said I was giving dangerous information.
You're right of course, COAL means Cartridge Over All Length and Over All means exactly that, not the length to some headspace datum line on the shoulder.
That moderator has been "educated" beyond his intelligence level and he should be banned for life from anything with a key board.
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |