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    Fixed My Action

    This rifle never shot 10 shots at the same POI since I got it. I had a hard time figuring out what was wrong, and realized my action was opening every once in a while. So when polished my locking lugs and got the rifle to never open again, I figured that must had been the problem.
    Well, I thought it was fixed and decided to reduce my load from Ruger #1 pressures, to lever action pressures so I could use a scope again. Only thing was, when I tried a group with it, I had a 6 inch low flier.
    I figured it had to be the action, because the vertical POI was the symptom. I did more polishing and, when I closed the action then, I knew it was fixed. It closed with no resistance whatsoever, and the lever to open it was good and tight.

    Not cast bullets but...
    This was yesterday, before the final polishing.


    Notice the vertical element of the group?

    Here is today's video after polishing.


    Hopefully it will stay like this, this isn't the first time I thought I had it fixed.

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    Breakopen actions are notorious for this. Experienced users of the Savage 219 were always telling newbies to close the gun exactly the same way every time.
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    I've actually been seriously considering getting one of these rifles to have a hunting .45-70, it's such a fun caliber.

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    When I'm shooting for group with my Topper 44 wcf , I close the action twice before each shot. With .430" boolits especially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscra112 View Post
    Breakopen actions are notorious for this. Experienced users of the Savage 219 were always telling newbies to close the gun exactly the same way every time.
    I had no idea this was a thing, I would have not bought the gun if I would have known.

    Quote Originally Posted by richhodg66 View Post
    I've actually been seriously considering getting one of these rifles to have a hunting .45-70, it's such a fun caliber.
    I suggest getting something else, it took me years to figure this out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    When I'm shooting for group with my Topper 44 wcf , I close the action twice before each shot. With .430" boolits especially.

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    The more I think on this rifle, and the more I hear, I don't think I can trust it for hunting. Maybe it will give me confidence by the time hunting season rolls around.

    Thanks!

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    If we get one that doesn't shoot, your work might point to a solution. That's fantastic shooting so far, keep trying it to see if it holds. I haven't heard anything negative about them but I've only seen .243 and 7-08 around here so I haven't tried one.

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    I have an Optima Elite in 7mm-08 which has never given any problems and shoots well. In fact, I think it is a better rifle than the Handi rifles ever were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    If we get one that doesn't shoot, your work might point to a solution. That's fantastic shooting so far, keep trying it to see if it holds. I haven't heard anything negative about them but I've only seen .243 and 7-08 around here so I haven't tried one.

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    In this thread is the only place I found negative feedback, I hope yours continue to shoot well.

    Quote Originally Posted by richhodg66 View Post
    I have an Optima Elite in 7mm-08 which has never given any problems and shoots well. In fact, I think it is a better rifle than the Handi rifles ever were.
    Well, hopefully I don't have to worry about this one anymore.

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    I have a buddy who has one in 35 Rem. and his daughter has one in .243. Both shoot under an inch at 100yds with factory ammo, and both kill deer every year with them. I believe you have the bugs worked out on yours, I would shoot it some more, and if no issues, go hunting with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koger View Post
    I have a buddy who has one in 35 Rem. and his daughter has one in .243. Both shoot under an inch at 100yds with factory ammo, and both kill deer every year with them. I believe you have the bugs worked out on yours, I would shoot it some more, and if no issues, go hunting with it.
    I don't think I'll ever get it fixed.



    If I tailor a load to shoot with those sights, I might be near max charge for lever-action, (and I usually do max Ruger #1.)
    Then I'll see if it happens again.

    That peep is really hard for me, so I'll just not hunt with it. :/

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    Get some good glass, and take that bad boy hunting, that is a shooting machine. Nothing wrong with the rifle, no more mechanical problems, just give it a day or two, put a good scope on it with good mounts, and everything will be alright. If you cant find a deal on a good scope, PM me, I can usually come up with one.

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    Hunting with a peep is futile. The wiser heads used to take the aperture right out of their Lyman tang sights, leaving a 3/16" hole. The eye naturally wants to center the front sight in the fuzzy hole, so it's actually accurate enough at woods ranges, especially if you practice. They called it a "ghost ring" rear sight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koger View Post
    Get some good glass, and take that bad boy hunting, that is a shooting machine. Nothing wrong with the rifle, no more mechanical problems, just give it a day or two, put a good scope on it with good mounts, and everything will be alright. If you cant find a deal on a good scope, PM me, I can usually come up with one.
    I've shot that same size group 30 times with this rifle, the entire time te POI could shift 5 to 8 minutes low at will. Ghost sights, tiny peep sights, semi buckhorns, scopes; the same symptom for 3 years.
    I'm going to make sure I don't get the POI shift for a good many shots, before I change anything!

    Quote Originally Posted by uscra112 View Post
    Hunting with a peep is futile. The wiser heads used to take the aperture right out of their Lyman tang sights, leaving a 3/16" hole. The eye naturally wants to center the front sight in the fuzzy hole, so it's actually accurate enough at woods ranges, especially if you practice. They called it a "ghost ring" rear sight.
    I'm not hunting with a peep, nor a ghost sight. I see 7 ghost ring holes, if I use that; with this tiny peep; I see 1/2 of the peep at the bottom of a larger peep. None of that works for hunting.

    I'm hunting with my 44mag with a scope. This rifle will be in limbo until further testing.

    Thanks!

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