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    Our strange hobby

    I was at a gun show a year ago and saw a Lyman 450 for ten dollars.
    At a gun show, everyone there is interested in guns. Only some of the people who are interested in guns reload their ammunition. A few of the people who reload cast their own bullets.
    That show had been open at least an hour before I got there, so probably two hundred people walked by that 450, glanced at it and kept walking.
    I already had a 450 at home, so would I spend ten dollars for a second one? Of course I would.

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    My 450 cost 15 bucks at a gun shop! Couple of Lyman molds in 358 caliber for 30 bucks for both from the same transaction and I was a “caster”! That was about 1992.

    A few years later, I bought 900 boolits cast, gas checked and lubed from a RCBS 150 gr mold. I asked if the mold they came from was there and I bought it for a reasonable sum and the boolits for .04$ each. That came from an estate through the gun shop. The 450 and Lyman molds were just dropped off by a widow when her husband died. She took no money for those items but thought why send such stuff to the dump! Yes, why indeed?

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    I pan lube so i dont need a lubersizer i use the lee sizers on my tmag. That said if i see cheap loading/casting equipment that i can put to use I'd pick it up also.
    That reminds me i need to get on ebay and find a lyman ideal 55
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    BTW, I think people who do not take their personal safety as strange. Like invest in guns and a more economical way to “feed” them.

    I think we are pretty darn logical and prudent!

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    I'd love to find a second sizer on the cheap. Closest I've come to a deal was a free lee load all shotshell loader from another shooting friend. It's missing the charge inserts though.

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    Probably less than 2% of the US population would recognize it for what it is.
    And only a few of them would know how to use it.
    The ones who would actually buy and use it is even less than them.

    Casting is such a small niche in the reloading hobby is why none of the sizing dies & equipment is stocked anywhere.
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    Younger gen is only "spray and pray".
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    No, guys, (and gals, if any), we're all freaking crazy. It's OK.

    One of the "little towns" I grew up in for a while was also home one of the state sanitariums. Back in the day it was a large building on a lot of acreage with a tall chainlink fence and barbed wire around the top. In those days there weren't very many curbs, and the shoulder of the road was tall grass. A motorist had a flat tire there one night. As he was changing his tire, he noticed a guy standing at the fence, with his hands through the wire, watching him. For you young folks, a sanitarium is where they used to keep the crazy people. The motorist was a little creeped out, so he keeps an eye on the guy as he jacks up the car, pulls the lugnuts off, and puts them in the hubcap in the grass at the side of the road. Guy is just staring at him. Motorist gets the tire out of the trunk, and as he goes to put it on the car, he kicks the hubcap, and it flips over into the tall grass. Search as he might, he can only find one lugnut. He mutters to himself, "Oh, now what am I going to do?" The guy at the fence says "Take a lug nut off each of the other tires, and put them on the spare, and you'll four lugnuts on all the wheels. It'll hold until you can get it to a tire shop." The motorist says " That's genius. What are you doing in there if you're that smart? Guy says "I'm in here for being crazy, not stupid."

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    I don't see casting stuff at gun shows all that often, but I have two 450s I payed $20 for one and $25 for another.

    My thing is how many high quality presses a guy sees going for less than one of the little tinny entry level Lee presses do brand new. Why would anybody buy a new, low qualiy thing like that when good ones are almost being given away?

    Dies too. As long as all the parts are there and they aren't rusted.

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    How strange are we? I'll tell you how strange.
    I collect (and use) Hensley & Gibbs moulds.
    I saw a 6 cavity #258 in pristine condition on GB.
    A fellow caster here had been looking for #258 for a LONG time and I sent him a note that one was for sale because I don't do 41 mag.
    He really wanted a 4 cavity and passed on it.
    So of course what did I do?
    I BOUGHT IT!
    The problem is that I don't have a 41 mag anything....brass, dies, gun...nothing.....
    But I now have a beautiful pristine 6 cavity #258 with handles.
    That's how strange we are.
    Now....I guess I am going to have to keep my eyes out for brass, dies, and eventually a gun.
    I always thought we were supposed to buy the gun FIRST.
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    Arkansas is hunting and shooting country, but I am surprised how few actually even reload. My friends talk about scarcity of factory ammo, and I don't say much.
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    Went to one of the largest antique shows in the NE a couple years ago. Was the last day of a week long show and stopped to look at an interesting booth that had some outdoor related stuff. The guy had a Lyman Spartan press with red plastic spent primer catcher in great shape. Before I could even look at the tag the vendor yelled out, “ how about 15 bucks ?” As you can imagine it now has a new home under my loading bench.

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    About a year ago a guy I met said he was selling off his brother's reloading materials since the brother had quit reloading ammo. I went to his house where he showed me several new and used molds, grips, etc. and a RCBS sizer for sale, plus several other things I didn't need. The sizer was complete and appeared functional but would require a full disassembly and cleaning to make it ready to use. His asking price for the sizer was $20 which I bought along with other materials I bought. I got the sizer completely cleaned and packed it with LAR's lube, then used it for a while to confirm it works well. Now our older son-in-law is started reloading and may start casting soon. Guess where that sizer will go! After all I still have 2 Lyman 450's on the bench so there is no loss, only the gain of another reloader/caster in the family.

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    Was at a gunshow once, where this guy had a table with used reloading stuff. I spotted 3 Forster trimmers. Two had labels 45 colt and 44 mag and oal listed. Both had collets and one pilot. The 3rd one had no collets or pilot. $25 each. I talked the guy down to $20 for the one labeled 45 colt. Should have bought all three.

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    Hi...
    I reload a large number of cartridges but I don't cast my own bullets.
    I do buy and resell used lubesizers and molds. I buy them at auctions and gun shows along with used reloading dies, presses and other reloading equipment.
    I don't make a whole lot of money doing that but it gives me something to do in retirement.

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    Looking forward to having gun shows again. I guess I should go online and check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmic_Charlie View Post
    Looking forward to having gun shows again. I guess I should go online and check.
    I'm afraid to go to a gun show. I just retired and have a bit more time on my hands. I'm afraid of what I may find to help fill up that time!

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    Always keep in mind the gun show to divorce cost ratio.
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    Its been a few years, but I bought a 450 at a gunshow for $20.00, it needed a few prts but I am still into it for well under thirty dollars.

    Then a little later I was at an estate auction and bought one of the newer 450's with heater no less, for $17.50. Evidently no one recognized what it was.

    I still mostly use my RCBS Lubamatic filled with FWFL for most things, but having extra lubriszers gives you options. Like one for BP lube, and another for a different smokeless lube.

    The one thing that may top my dislike for trimming cases is changing lube in a sizer. It is only done when absolutely necessary, at least at my house.

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    I had a 450 and sold it since l already had an orange 45 on the bench and most of my work was done with Stars. I would love to have a 450 again.

    Got any for sale?

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check