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    There’s No Such Thing As 12:00 AM or 12:00 PM!

    “Ante” is before, “Post” is after; 12:00 is neither, it’s in the middle. It’s correctly referred to as 1200 noon or 1200 midnight. The nonsense of 12:00 AM or PM is a result of digital clocks and has created its share of nonsense and confusion since it first appeared.

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    Well, that sucks eggs.
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    But it so much easier to than 0000 and 1200 .
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    The official keeper of time in the United States is the National Institute of Standards and Technology, NIST. Their statement on the matter, and therefore the legal opinion, is: "... 12 a.m. and 12 p.m. are ambiguous and should not be used."

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    OK hers how I got it. "M" means meridian or noon. So 12 AM does not exist. 12 PM is after, or post (P) noon, so it is valid. The problem is in this country we always want to re-invent around an issue rather than correct people. It's kind of like tearing down Grants statues cause you don't want to be a slave.

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    Grateful that my vocations, avocations and hobbies have long used 24 hour clocks and Zulu time.

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    I use an "ish" clock.

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    If your post was sparked by the notice about the server going down I’m surprised you didn’t notice that the times should be EDT and MDT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    I use an "ish" clock.

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    There ya go problem solved . Lol
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    Saw EDT and MTN. They exist, it’s the 12:00 AM or PM that doesn’t.

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    If neither existed, our day would be two minutes shorter, as the clock would go from 11:59 to 12:01 twice a day. My clock goes to 12:00 and stays there for 60 seconds, two times a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castaway View Post
    Saw EDT and MTN. They exist, it’s the 12:00 AM or PM that doesn’t.
    Lol, you didn’t. You saw EST and MST which exist, just not at this time of year.

    I wonder what the correct nomenclature is for the very few places that don’t recognize daylight savings time.

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    you tell 'em.

    also, you need to destroy all the old clocks that used IIII for 4, instead of using IV.

    stupid punk clock makers not spending extra money for IV.

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    I'm retired .... don't need no stinking clock.......
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    Amen Larry.Amen.
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    The whole clock, 'what time is it' thing is just a confidence game perpetuated by the Swiss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DougGuy View Post
    If neither existed, our day would be two minutes shorter, as the clock would go from 11:59 to 12:01 twice a day. My clock goes to 12:00 and stays there for 60 seconds, two times a day.
    I don't think the analog clocks around the house are ever going to do the "minute hop" twice a day so if they ever correct the digital ones to skip the non-existent midnight or noon <cheesy grin here> My clocks will all lose 2 minutes a day.

    Also I blame the rail roads for all this standardization of time. Something to do with not having two trains at same place at same time going in opposite directions made them get all fussy about time. And industrial revolution, wanting everyone to start work at the same time.

    Of course solar meridian and noon are not the same. I think going back many decades that the sun is only at meridian one moment each day and it isn't likely to be at noon but once a year. If that. Yep was able to confirm that the science I learned in the 9th grade still applied.

    In most places on Earth, solar noon does not happen at 12 o'clock. The Earth's rotation slowly shifts the meridian experiencing solar noon from east to west. In other words, solar noon happens a little earlier in locations just east of you and a little later in locations west of you.
    Yet clocks in both of those locations will say it is "noon" So for much of a given time zone 12:00 AM is really before the meridian but it could also be after to your east. And it is always going to be 12 hrs. before and after midnight.

    Does anyone really know what time it is? Does anybody really care? If so I can't imagine why....
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    I don't care. But someone please explain why we observe daylight saving (no S) time. I suspect it's some type of social experiment to see how much we will put up with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by historicfirearms View Post
    I suspect it's some type of social experiment to see how much we will put up with.
    That's about what it has evolved into.

    And a few people have had enough of it.
    One of the Western, desert states no longer switches over to it anymore.
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