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Thread: Short bullets in a 45-70.

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    Short bullets in a 45-70.

    Am considering getting a mold for a light weight bullet (~295gr) in my Model 1886. Can a 45-70 loaded with a fairly short, light weight bullet have a COAL too short to feed properly? Thanks.

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    As deep as a 405 goes in, it shouldn't be a problem, even with the OAL being the same.

    As may 300-ish gr. boolits as there is- we'd have heard of any issues with them by now.
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    My 1895 will cycle guard loads dont know about the winchester mechanisms
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    RCBS have suitable 45 cal moulds that have the same bullet shape in front of the crimp groove. These are available in 300, 400 & 500 gr versions. I have the 400 and 500 gr versions and both are accurate. They also feed and cycle well.
    Last edited by JFE; 06-15-2020 at 02:41 PM.

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    I use the Lyman 457191 in both of my Marlin 1895s and have not had any problems.
    There is no problem so great, that it cannot be solved by the proper application of high explosives.

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    Thanks guys. I just compared the distance between the crimp groove and the bullet meplat of the light weight bullet and it is identical to my 345gr bullet, so it will work fine.

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    I use a 260gn 'short' boolit in my 1886 for Pat Garret matches (LHS)

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    I’ve never had any trouble with 300gn boolits in my .45/70 Marlin. I’ve heard people even load round balls. Nothing mentioned about how they cycle though.

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    My 1886 in 45-90 will feed collar buttons with no issues.
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    Just recently I loaded some wax boolits for 45-70. Tried tried them in the SBL and no problem.
    There is no problem so great, that it cannot be solved by the proper application of high explosives.

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    My 1895 Marlin feeds NOE button Bullets fine

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    My 1886 and 1895 Marlins feed my collar button molds just fine

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