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Thread: is the 44-40 underpowered for hogs and medium game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer in NH View Post
    Magnumistis, disease of the magnums. Power was never enough unless a magnum.

    As a flintlock shooter I laugh at them. I do not shoot past 100 yards anyway.

    If I need to shoot past that most modern cartridges will work.

    Ain't no elephants on this continent.

    Deer have not become stronger in the last 200 years. Shooters of them have become incompetent and think power helps. Idiots it seems.
    Pheasants too. You need a 3.5" 12 gauge goose gun to attempt to bring one down and anything less than #4 shot just won't do.
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    The problem with deer hunting now days is that all of the libtards that claim to be conservative think all shots have to kill instantly........Ban all Native American weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    I always found it amusing that a 30-30 10" Contender was considered a long range Pronghorn gun but a 20" 30-30 rifle shouldn't be used past 100 yards.....

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    I too found that amusing or confusing when I first started reading gun magazines. Also the idea that a .257 Roberts was fine as a boys or ladies rifle, but a real man needed a .30-06 or larger for anything.

    If a boy or lady can kill a deer, antelope, elk whatever with a smaller round, why does a "real man" need something bigger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mk42gunner View Post
    Also the idea that a .257 Roberts was fine as a boys or ladies rifle, but a real man needed a .30-06 or larger for anything. If a boy or lady can kill a deer, antelope, elk whatever with a smaller round, why does a "real man" need something bigger? Robert
    Stop using logic mister!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer in NH View Post
    Magnumistis, disease of the magnums. Power was never enough unless a magnum.

    As a flintlock shooter I laugh at them. I do not shoot past 100 yards anyway.

    If I need to shoot past that most modern cartridges will work.

    Ain't no elephants on this continent.

    Deer have not become stronger in the last 200 years. Shooters of them have become incompetent and think power helps. Idiots it seems.
    you mean they don't have a kevlar vest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GregLaROCHE View Post
    Since no one has said it yet, I will. It’s all about bullet placement.
    Yes If shot too far back even a 375 H&H does not kill quick enough.
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    We all know you can only kill hogs with a 45-70 guide gun loaded for Water Buffalo!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savvy Jack View Post
    We all know you can only kill hogs with a 45-70 guide gun loaded for Water Buffalo!!
    I didn’t get the memo I guess. Last week I killed a 200lb or so boar with a 60gr 22-250......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    I didn’t get the memo I guess. Last week I killed a 200lb or so boar with a 60gr 22-250......
    BLASPHAMY! lol

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    I though the smallest u should on anything from a deed down to a rabbit was a 460 Wetherby mag

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cast_outlaw View Post
    I though the smallest u should on anything from a deed down to a rabbit was a 460 Wetherby mag
    no silly, a chipmunk!!!! elmer fudd used a double barrel rifle in 700 nitro express to kill a wabbit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 444ttd View Post
    no silly, a chipmunk!!!! elmer fudd used a double barrel rifle in 700 nitro express to kill a wabbit.
    That is exactly why DNR took Elmer's shotgun away from him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Gibson View Post
    Who is "you"?

    for hunting I shoot 240 gr cast at 1400 fps or 215 GC'd at 1650 fps out of my M92 44-40 Uberti carbine with 20" barrel. I would hardly consider that as "underpowered or even hazardous" except as in hazardous to deer and hogs...... Back in the day the 44-40 in the M92 with the express loading was considered the epitome of a deer hunting lever action rifle. Contrary to popular myth deer are not any harder to kill and neither are feral hogs.
    Wait, NO !!! Larry,,, Deer and Pigs are much tougher now than ever before. They have evolved into massive creatures which are nearly bullet proof and resist killing by anything weaker than a Cartridge developed in the last 10 years. This evolution has occurred in spite of the 100+ million of their ancestors who were dropped with that ridiculously weak round. This is a completely new breed of animal, and I'm pretty sure that "internet scientists" were responsible for it's creation.

    Evolution is no joke! And neither is stupidity. I'm seeing it in full force on TV every night!

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    I’ve only killed 4 feral hogs. One with 44mg SBH and other three with 30/06 M95 Win. I have killed a lot of hogs and steers with 22. I had a steer of about 800lb that was ornery and wild. I was going to rope it out of back of truck and get over where I wanted to kill it. It had other ideas and ran around front of truck tearing of wipers and burnt my hands. I was POed and only had a 22 rifle. I couldn’t get near it, it would run off 20yds like a dog playing. I finally leaned up against building and shot it in the head between eyes and ears and killed it deader than a clam.

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