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Thread: Not what I had planned, range scrap

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    "Is it worth all the work?"

    I was thinking the same thing when I was about half done.

    But the lead was free if you don't put a value on the time to pick it up and it was picked up over a few years so it wasn't like that was a big part of it and I kind of wanted to get it out from under my workbench. I just retired so I guess my time has gone down in value and having it in ingots in the shed is a lot more convenient than buckets under the bench. If I use it for handgun stuff it will last me a long time as much as I get to shoot any more and free up my WW's and type metal for other stuff. In the end I'm glad I got it done and know that I have a good stash and if in the future if I get some more for no cost I would do it again but if you want to do it to make money it would be easier to get a part time job. I guess that's why thy call it a hobby, just some thing to waste time and money on.
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    As an up date I I melted a pot full in my electric pot and cast some LBT 150-OWC's .I cast about 5 lb"s worth air cooling half and WD'ing the rest. After sorting I weighed 20 and they ran from the about 151.7gr's to 152.7 with most around 152.2gr's. I have some cast years ago from a mix that was estimated to be 1.77% tin and 3.52% antimony with the help some nice guy's and there LAC . I weighed a bunch of them and they ran 150 to around 150.7 with most 150.2

    I'm guessing there is more lead in there and should be softer but haven't checked to see how thy compare plus I just cast them a few day's ago so should give them so time to age.

    The one thing I have to go back and check is that I thought that thy would have filled out better. I added just over 2% pewter so there should be enough tin and thy did look good and shiny but found that I had to turn the pot up all the way to get them to fill out. I 'm now wondering if the pot may be going out or some thing. I got it used in the mid 80's and if you turned it all the way up it would frost the boolits. I just used it two months ago and had to turn it all the way up but it was in the low 60's this time it was in the mid 90's. I hate to think of having to start looking for a new one. I don't know if you can fix old SAECO furnace's or not.Click image for larger version. 

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    the dross from smelting jacketed bullets may well be mostly copper, having been in the scrap business some scrap yards will test it if you insist, if they have an xrf, could make the difference between $1 and $2.50 lb.

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    I cast these last summer and thy have had almost a year to age. The wd'ed one is the one with the marker on it. So it show's that you can harden range scrap. But not how hard it is. So I took a old one from 20 years ago and put it head to head with the wd'ed range scrap ( with the marker on it) and even after all these years it was still hard enough to push in to the wd'ed r.s.

    Note: the old ones were WD'ed allso
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    It may have been more work than you planned but the end result looks good. You can always put a range lead ingot in with your wheelweights, stretching the wheelweight alloy.

    Some see this smelting process as work, and it can be, but I rather enjoy it. I have a few buddies that come over to cast and we also help each other when we get enough scrap to melt.

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    I grew up as a child of children of the depression.

    I always am on the lookout for lead sources. I get a kick out of casting as well as powder coating. Almost as much as cowboy shooting.

    my next 'adventure' is to mine the cowboy range.
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    This was great thread for a newbie like me to get a feel for processing scrap into something useful. Thanks, very informative!

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
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