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    Had similar problem,but on a 2012 Ford, dealership couldn’t find problem for 3 months. Finally took truck in with full tank of gas and told them to keep it till it’s fixed. 2 days later they found it to be a high pressure fuel pump, didn’t even know it had one. After that no more problems. I like my ‘48 CJ2 no computer.

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    Reading the codes is the right place to start. That takes a lot of the diagnostic work out of the equation.
    As engine controls became increasingly complex, diagnosing the faults became increasingly difficult. At least with OBD II the engineers recognized the need to identify problems. While OBD II isn't a cure all, it sure is a step in the right direction.

    While coil packs do fail and will cause an intermittent misfire, they generally don't fail specifically under load. The OP stated the failure occurs while towing or going uphill. A bad coil pack will just fail intermittently, regardless of the load.
    The OP's failure sounds more like a fuel problem. However, the unusual shifting and the fact that it is a Dodge, makes me suspect a throttle position sensor as well. For some reason, Chrysler never seemed to learn how to make a throttle position sensor.

    All of this is just speculation. Reading the codes is the right place to start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hossfly View Post
    .............. I like my ‘48 CJ2 no computer.
    /\ Simple is GOOD !

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    Seems no one in industry understands KISS any longer. My son hit a bird breaking the headlight lens, 1250$ to replace a headlight! Dealer 1450, two small shops 1250$ cash! 850$ headlight 3.4 hours book labor to get to it!!!! Unbelievable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rking22 View Post
    Seems no one in industry understands KISS any longer. My son hit a bird breaking the headlight lens, 1250$ to replace a headlight! Dealer 1450, two small shops 1250$ cash! 850$ headlight 3.4 hours book labor to get to it!!!! Unbelievable.
    That’s covered under your insurance comp coverage. We carry 0 ded with St Farm and it only adds about $16 every six months to the premium.
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    Our insurance covered it, not the point. Point is that a traditionally simple repair is now a moon shot! Insurance companies ARE going to make money and those kinds of repair cost will lead to a notable increase on that type coverage, over the long haul for everyone.
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    If you have no acces to a scanner, you can go to most auto parts places and they will scan for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rking22 View Post
    Our insurance covered it, not the point. Point is that a traditionally simple repair is now a moon shot! Insurance companies ARE going to make money and those kinds of repair cost will lead to a notable increase on that type coverage, over the long haul for everyone.
    I hear you!

    I bought a brand new Ram 1500 pickup and wanted to upgrade the headlight bulbs to something a little brighter. I looked at the light housing and didn't see an easy way to replace the bulbs, so I went on YouTube and looked up how to change them.

    If I remember correctly, you had to remove the grille and the front tires to access the bulbs! Just stupid. Did the same thing on my new Toyota 4Runner and while it didn't require removal of parts, I could barely get them out due to being an adult with larger hands.
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    I'm guessing this is a V8 gas engine. First off fuel filter is inside gas tank. You can check externally but not going to find one. Second off maybe it's intake gaskets. Check for TSB on Google. You plug off the port on manifold let the instructions and it will verify your problem. There is a gasket on the bottom of the manifold that blows. It is what leaks. When you need power going uphill you lose all vacuum. In the 90s and early 2000s I sold the parts for this on a daily basis at a Dodge dealership. Remember it is not just the gasket that goes to the head. It's the one on the bottom of the manifold.
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    400 bucks latter, I found out the truck had two fuel injectors nor working. running like a champ now. changed all 4 in that bank my mechanic labor the same to for 2 or 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redriverhunter View Post
    400 bucks latter, I found out the truck had two fuel injectors nor working. running like a champ now. changed all 4 in that bank my mechanic labor the same to for 2 or 4.

    Well there you have it.

    Good Job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrench View Post
    There is only one thing that causes a flashing MIL on an OBDII vehicle-type A misfire. Misfire typically shows up first under load so that makes sense that you see it when towing or going uphill.
    Not necessarily an ignition problem, but could be anything that causes a cylinder to not produce power. Some engine computers will also cut out fuel injectors when misfire occurs in an attempt to save the catalytic convertor from damage.
    Agree with the others, get the codes read and go from there. Misfire codes are P030x,
    The x number is the cylinder number. If the code is P0300, it is called a random misfire, the computer cannot identify a specific cylinder as the problem.
    I was getting this on my 98 chevy Silverado a couple of years ago. Long Story Short, I hadn't done a tuneup on it since I got it in 2010. Distributor has a cracked boss for the hold-down screws, moisture got in the cap and corroded the aluminum terminals. Aluminum oxide is an insulator. Wirebrushed it, got it start. Replaced the cap, wires, plugs (which had a way out of spec gap) and it runs well again. I have one of the (when I bought it) $20 bluetooth code readers from Amazon, and only cylinder 1 was showing the misfire code. I use the Torque Pro android app. I think that was $10. I want one of the code readers that does ABS and such, and someday I may get one, but for now the cheap one works well enough. For most cars, there is a key you can get that will let you read the blink codes on your dash, but it's nearly as expensive as the bluetooth module and app. Since nearly everyone has a smartphone these days, the code reader is generally a better buy. If you gotta buy the smart phone (or tablet) too, might as well get the fancy code reader. Especially if you have expensive taste in phones or tablets.

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    All in all $400 doesn’t sound so bad fo a pro repair. Like brakes the fuel system is not something to be taken lightly as the consequences of a failure or bad repair can become quite serious.

    As I do most of my own work a couple of years ago my wife got me a decent mid range scanner for X-mas it has paid for itself several times over.

    Though the modern systems seem complicated for an average car/truck once you understand how they work it’s actually quite simple. Cost to repair is a different story though.

    Unfortunately there’s no going back to throttle cables and points and condensers in the modern world.

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