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Thread: 357 maximum brass for snake/rat loads?

  1. #1
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Mar 2008

    Question 357 maximum brass for snake/rat loads?

    Anyone with experience, please!
    How much more #9 or #12 shot will 357 maximum brass hold, compared to a Speer Shot Capsule? Are they more effective, and if so, how much and at what range?

    My thought is that what I load should be effective (deadly) from 8-12 feet...15 would be nice, though.
    I will start at 4.5 gr. Unique in 357 brass/Speer capsule/#9, and go from there.

    If Maximum brass holds a significant advantage, it may be worth the added expense for brass and a .222 Remington size die.

    What say, boolit gurus?

  2. #2
    Yes - it is definitely worth using the Max brass. I believe the loads I have made hold 1/3 oz of nickel plated #9. I used a thin card wad with a light roll crimp to seal the case. I may have had to make a special die to neck the case to fit the chamber.
    I'll look my data up tomorrow.

    Next day. Shot payload is 130 grains (close to 1/3oz). I used a cardboard cup wad over the powder, skirt down. The necks were sized using a modified carbide die, don't remember which one, now. It's been a while since I made these, but they do make a wonderful pattern at 15 feet out of a 4" barrel. You can probably go up a little with the Unique - that's what I used.
    Last edited by curdog007; 06-04-2020 at 09:36 PM.

  3. #3
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    coastal north carolina
    use .357 gas checks over powder and crimped over shot, elmers glue over the end.

  4. #4
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Minnesota frozen tundra
    One of those projects that I have wanted to do for a long time, but never got to. Assume you are using the 222 die to size down the end. Do you fire form, or just load and shoot.

    Estimate on velocity? My limited experience with .410 in pistol and derringer was that lower velocities tended to pattern much better.

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check