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    You don't see dust in the powder, just on the side of the container it's in. Both the tub I dumped it in to inspect and weigh and the bag I poured it in instead of back in the original can. My guess would be any dust in the powder gets coated with graphite and doesn't show.

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    Years ago gun stores and hardware stores bought gunpowder in 32lb cans and you bought a pound or two in brown paper bags. Keeping the powder in those paper bags was safe for years. I'd choose this over zip lock bags.
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    I remember buying paper bags of powder from Jack Stacey......everything was 1/6- a lb (15c),He never had a cigarette out of his mouth ,except for ladling out blackpowder ,he used to put it on the shelf behind him.You had the choice of 2 kinds of surplus IMR , Mortar Ballistite,or what he called "blasting powder" which was coarse grain blackpowder that burnt very cleanly ,cleaner than any black Ive seen since.

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    Wow, mine looks nothing like that. Mine looks normal with no color at all in the actual powder. Thank you for sharing that.

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    I'd dump that powder into a plastic tub, wash with Dawn and a bit of
    baking soda. Rinse well and dry.
    That crud looks as if it came from the cardboard container.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaguarxk120 View Post
    I'd dump that powder into a plastic tub, wash with Dawn and a bit of
    baking soda. Rinse well and dry.
    That crud looks as if it came from the cardboard container.
    Looks just like powder I dumped from a metal can, had the bad odor of deteriorating powder and the red fluff.
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    Guys, it seems like some folks are in total denial. If you see rust in the can...dump it. What caused the rust was oxides of nitrogen from deteriorating powder eating the can.
    Doesn't matter what it smells like. The smell only happens in severe deterioration cases.
    Toss it on the lawn or garden. Don't wash it...doing so will remove the deterrent coating; then you don't know what speed the stuff is anymore.
    Nitrocellulose powder deteriorating will eventually result in a fire in your powder locker.
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    Find yourself a nice big anthill and make their day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmacgyver0 View Post
    Find yourself a nice big anthill and make their day!
    That should be a real "crowd pleaser"!
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    When in doubt..............throw it out. I just pitched a partial bottle of Varget, due to discoloration of half the kernels. Just didn't look, right. Powder was dated, by me, 2013. Was stored in an old non working upright freezer, in my walkout basement shop. YMMV.

    Deteriorating powder can self combust. Why take the chance? Good luck explaining that to your insurance carrier.

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    I would tend to err on the side of caution.

    A Mackay man who stored propellant powders in an old bank safe in his gunroom woke to discover that the deflagration of propellant powders stored within the safe had bulged the safe door outward, allowing the gases to escape. The gases escaped with sufficient force to blow out a brick wall immediately beside the safe.

    It is well known that ammunition can deteriorate with age to a stage where it will not reliably fire. It is not widely known that propellant powder deteriorates and decomposes with age. A retardant is added to powder to stop or delay decomposition. However, in time, the retardant loses its effectiveness, decomposition sets in a spontaneous combustion can occur. It appears that this was the case in this incident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gnoahhh View Post
    Welllllll.....

    It might be ok, it might not be ok. Why take a chance just to save a couple bucks? Fertilizer for the tomatoes would be my recommendation.
    Absolutely!!
    Did the same thing with cans of Dupont 5066 from father in laws basement.. Red dust, smelled okay. Faint solvent smell.
    Went on the hostas.

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