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    What is it?????

    I know what this one is.
    But wonder how many know old tools.
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    in Puerto Rico its called a domesticator.
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    Adjustable Sling Keeper for Hi-Power Competition

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    I love old Tools, and I know many odd ones, but I sure do not know know what this one is.

    I hope I can find out as the Thread progresses..!

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    Almost looks like an old mop head but if it was the roller on the bottom wouldn't serve any purpose.
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    Angle guide for sharpening a plane iron.

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    Bingo!!!!!!!
    It wasn't very well known, even back in the days.
    They do make modern one's.
    Very few use those to.

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    Wow. I can see it now but wouldn’t have guessed. I use century old tools daily but my plane/chisel sharpening guide is a modern one that looks very different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David2011 View Post
    Wow. I can see it now but wouldn’t have guessed. I use century old tools daily but my plane/chisel sharpening guide is a modern one that looks very different.
    Same I can see it now but wouldn’t have guessed..............
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    This one is one of the better one's.
    You can adjust the angle with out having to move the blade.
    The bottom thumb wheel holds the blade.
    The top one mover the roller on the bottom.
    Kind of like fine tuning the angle.
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    Yes, in use you set the primary angle and sharpen to the edge, then you lower the wheel just a bit and hone a secondary bevel. In the process you can flip the blade over to polish the back of the blade without removing the guide. For subsequent sharpening you reinstall the blade at the same length as before and just hone that secondary bevel. Once that bevel gets too big you start over with the primary bevel.

    Millers Falls made some good tools.

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    Back in the days, we used to make tools that would last and do the best at what it was designed for.
    These days it's all about profit, so workmanship and durability is a non-factor.
    The same can be said of the 'new generation" of workers.
    Very sad.

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    Neat, thanks for sharing.

    I don't find it hard to sharpen a plane iron by hand. Course, you have to know how the particular plain is used and sharpen the iron accordingly. Only plane I have currently is a #4 jack. Good old fashioned all purpose #4.

    I always think about making a knife out of the iron when I take it out to sharpen it.

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    JimB beat me to it. But is definitely IS an angle holder for sharpening chisels and plane blades on a flat stone.

    Have a couple of them. I collect olde tools.

    If you want an exact flat angle on your blades, you WILL use this! I never used to hand sharpen cutting blades with out one. Your hands/body cannot hold the blade in the exact same angle/position for many repetitive strokes over the stone. Once you use it you will wonder how you got along with out it!

    It is the same as the guy that tells you he can sharpen a twist drill without a sharpening guide! Cannot be done. Sure the drill will cut, but both flute faces have to be exactly the same angle, length, and position to cut correctly. That is why I use a Darex bit sharpener! Perfect grinds, perfect angles, chips come off the cutting faces in equal shape and thickness!

    Today I sharpen most of my plane and cutter blades on a 200 RPM 14" powered whetstone. It has an adapter similar to that old tool above except it is held firm at the angle you dial in and then press the blade against the slowly revolving wet stone. No burned blue steel there! That is how I get perfect bevel-ground blades just like the factory does it!

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    I have found setting up a planes frog and chip breaker is far more critical to get the desired cut than the sharpening angle of the blade. Problem with an angle guide is you can't get a slight convex on you blade. Any rough work it's desirable to have a slight convex.

    Only a finish plane and a joining plane needs a square and flat edge. The angle really isn't critical, just that the edge isn't wavy. Least this is my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazoo View Post
    I have found setting up a planes frog and chip breaker is far more critical to get the desired cut than the sharpening angle of the blade. Problem with an angle guide is you can't get a slight convex on you blade. Any rough work it's desirable to have a slight convex.

    Only a finish plane and a joining plane needs a square and flat edge. The angle really isn't critical, just that the edge isn't wavy. Least this is my experience.
    I’ve had many long discussions about the importance of the bevel angle on bevel-down plane irons, I’ve always viewed it as just being a clearance angle. Have spoken to Ron Hock and he agrees as do some other folk, others do not, it’s the 9mm vs 45 of the hand tool world. FWIW, I tend to put a slight curve on all my plane irons, even the finishing ones. Using a guide I put a bit of pressure on the outside of the blade.

    I do enjoy a bit of hand tool work, but there never seems to be enough time for all my hobbies!

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