I experimented with the NOE 311-180, Gas Checked and sized .3095 with Carnuba Red lube and 2400 powder. I worked up from 16 to 20 grains at 1700 FPS and each increase in powder shrunk group size. 20 grains net a one inch group at 50 yards using a 1911 carbine and original sights. I could easily hit the 300 yard gong with the rear sight set for 600