The 8 does not belong in the heading that was a typeO. I cast up some Lee 225 55 gr. 6 cavity, and I used straight COWW and about 3 oz tin in a 10 # Lee bottom pour pot and water droped. My temp was running about 750 to 800, nice shiny boolits. I have a Lee hardness tester but I have problems getting a reading. Just wondered what you guys think the hardness is. I can't scratch the boolits with my fingernail. Thanks