List of supplies to PC tumble and dump method

[DeadWoodDan]

So with 11 weeks off from work I've decided to try and PC finally. Wanted to make a list as I couldn't find a comprehensive one but most threads describe enough to get the idea. Please let me know if I missed something or comments. Thanks DWD

• Powder from Smoke_Smoke4320
• Toaster Oven
• Thermometer to verify_Amazon
• silicon baking sheet_Amazon
• various size baskets_Amazon
• Air soft BB's if needed_Smoke
• Pan bigger than basket to catch left over powder_Dollar General, Tree, kitchen, etc...
• appropriate tupper ware/tub with lid
• and lastly the b00lits

[rancher1913]

at least you know to start with a proven powder. I would just get some non-stick aluminum foil and stand the boolits individually before you go down the dump method path, that way you can see what a really good coating and bake job looks like. down the road if you want to do huge batches fine but start slow and get the variables worked out.

[DeadWoodDan]

Great advice Rancher! I will definitely do this.

[RKJ]

I started out with BB's but have found I didn't need them. I do the dump method and have found they are rougher than when I stand them up, so I'll probably go back to doing that way. The silicone mat is a good idea, I just got some and they are nice. Get some Cool Whip tubs, they seem to work better than others I've tried (but, that might just be me) plus you get some topping for the Cherry Pie you'll need for all the Cool Whip.

[Conditor22]

Powder from Smoke_Smoke4320 ---- this is a safe bet to begin with there are many other good sources when you know what to look for --- generally any polyester TGIC high gloss powder will work, whites, yellows, tans don't always cover that well. There is a thread that lists powders that work.
Toaster Oven --- works but convection oven will bake more evenly and handle larger loads
Thermometer to verify_Amazon --- or anywhere you can get a thermometer to confirm oven setting
silicon baking sheet_Amazon --- you can use parchment paper, non-stick foil or just set them on/in office organizer baskets
various size baskets_Amazon --- I'd get the biggest one (s) that fit in the oven
Airsoft BB's if needed_Smoke --- poly pellets work well also
Pan bigger than basket to catch leftover powder_Dollar General, Tree, kitchen, etc... ---- you can make a colander to sift the powder (& BB's) out -- cheapest is pushing holes in a paper plate to drilling holes in a more solid bowl
appropriate tupper ware/tub with lid ---- Any plastic bowl that has #5 marking (some say #2 works)with a lid [the best cheap bowl is a cool whip container
and lastly the b00lits ---- don't quench the boolits until after you PC them. PC doesn't stick worth a darn to dirty/contaminated boolits.


Bake your coated boolits at 400° in a preheated oven for 25 min to ensure the PC has completely cured.


Now you're ready to go down the rabbit hole.

[Huskerguy]

Smoke4320 told me to preheat to 400 and bake for 15 minutes for his powder. What is gained by heating longer?

[Valley-Shooter]

Add a dust mask to your list. You don't want to inhale paint particles.

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[HCH]

I’m pretty sure I read it on here, but I use a very small amount of acetone when I’m shaking the boolits. I shake them cold, so it cuts out the pre-heat. I make sure to let the acetone COMPLETELY evaporate before baking. I put the bullets in a plastic tub with just a bit of acetone and shake a few times. Then add a small amount of PC. Keep adding acetone and pc as necessary. When you have enough pc to coat the whole bullet, lay them on a screen and let the acetone evaporate.


This may be adding more costs and steps to the operation, but it’s worked for me.

[rancher1913]

the acetone is used for cleaning oils of the boolits so the pc can grab, not sure about mixing it with pc. think you may be confusing hitek and pc. getting pc powder wet is counter productive.

[reddog81]

Absolutely no need for acetone with PC.

[redhawk0]

Agreed...no need for acetone.

You might want to add tweezers or needle-nose pliers to your list. It makes handling individual powdered PC boolits easier.

redhawk

[DeadWoodDan]

thought i read we could use the blue latex gloves to handle after PC vs. tweezers?

[reddog81]

Using a gloved hand to pick up the bullets is certainly possible but you touch a lot of the surface area of the bullet and knock off some PC in the process. Using tweezers allows you to pick up the bullet by the nose and place the bullets closer together on the tray.

[Beetmagnet]

I like the clear powders best. Coated 40k with the clear in January.

[HCH]

the acetone is used for cleaning oils of the boolits so the pc can grab, not sure about mixing it with pc. think you may be confusing hitek and pc. getting pc powder wet is counter productive.

I’ve used both Hi Tek and PC.

In my experience, getting the PC to stick to the bullets in the proper amounts has been tricky at best. I’ve tried varying preheat temps and times, and I either get a very thin coat of PC or a giant messy glob that cannot be worked with. Here’s a picture of some 9mm boolits and some .40 S&W loaded rounds that I have done with the acetone. I shot a USPSA match today with the .40’s (180 Arsenal) today and have no leading in the barrel. I’m running this boolit about 975fps.

I know plenty of folks have good luck shakin and bakin or spraying PC, but I’m not one of them.

[pan957]

Elvis Ammo says to preheat boolits to 125 degrees before shaking in a #5 plastic container.

[Conditor22]

Elvis Ammo says to preheat boolits to 125 degrees before shaking in a #5 plastic container.

This is helpful IF you have high humidity

[Conditor22]

Smoke4320 told me to preheat to 400 and bake for 15 minutes for his powder. What is gained by heating longer?

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...PC-long-enough

The longer bake time is required for the powder coating to fully cure to prevent "contamination of double-base smokeless gunpowder.

[Conditor22]

I’m pretty sure I read it on here, but I use a very small amount of acetone when I’m shaking the boolits. I shake them cold, so it cuts out the pre-heat. I make sure to let the acetone COMPLETELY evaporate before baking. I put the bullets in a plastic tub with just a bit of acetone and shake a few times. Then add a small amount of PC. Keep adding acetone and pc as necessary. When you have enough pc to coat the whole bullet, lay them on a screen and let the acetone evaporate.


This may be adding more costs and steps to the operation, but it’s worked for me.

read this

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...-Piglet-Method