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    WTS-Alox Lube Base

    Several years ago, I purchased 5 gallons each of Alox 606-55 and Alox 350. It turns out that my estimate of usage was way out of line. I have decided to get rid of all but a small amount that will last me longer than I will need it. Since I do not intend to be in the business of selling lube components, I am not going to load up with containers and boxes. I will be shipping in plastic nut jars. I will use whatever boxes I can find that are sturdy enough and not excessively large. I will pack securely so there is no leakage. I will not ship more than one container to a customer.

    I have 5 jars of the Alox 606-55 and 2 jars of Alox 350. The jars I have hold anywhere from 48 fl. oz. to 56 fl. oz. I am selling this material for the cost of shipping in order to get rid of it. Since I have no way of knowing shipping until I have a destination, I will ship it before notifying of the cost. Est. shipping will probably be $12 + or -. I will accept USPS money orders, personal checks from long time members or PayPal. PM for more information.


    For those not familiar with Alox, the 606-55 is the material used in various tumble lube recipes. Alox 350 is the closest thing to Alox 2138f(no longer available) for mixing with beeswax to make NRA 50-50, The directions for doing this are available in several places. Alox 606-55 was originally a rust preventive. If someone wants, I have some instructions for making a rust preventive for long term storage of firearms.

    All this to explain that all I am trying to do is pare down the stuff in my shop. I am not attempting to horn in on any vendor's business. When this is gone, there may be more but I will evaluate how much at that time.

    Post here for which one you want and follow with a PM. Post time and date determine priority.
    John
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    I'll take one of the Alox 350.

    Thanks,

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    I would take a jar of the Alox 350

    Thanks,

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    I'll take a 606-55. Would be great if you a recipe for tumble lube
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    I’ll take some alox 350

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    I would take a 605-55. Thank you! Any recipes you have would be greatly appreciated as well. Sending pm shortly.
    Last edited by Zingger; 04-22-2020 at 04:15 PM.

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    I’ll take two of 350 if you have any left.
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    I will take a jar 606-55.
    Thank you. PM sent.

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    I would like a container of the Alox 606-55.
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    I would like a container of the Alox 606-55.
    Thanks Dan

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    I would like a jar of the Alox 606-55. Pm sent although I may be too late

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    May as well add me to list and also would be interested in the storage recipes. Thanks, Teddy

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    i will take a jar of whatever you have left...

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    Another if there is any left I will take it.
    PM sent also

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    I have responded by PM to everyone through Post #11. Referring to my OP, I had 5 of the Alox 606-55 and 2 of the Alox 350. Anyone after Post #11 will have to wait until I get these first items shipped and responded to with cost.

    I probably have more of the Alox 350 available but will have to see. I want to keep enough of the 606-55 to carry me thru. It won't take much by the time I mix it according to various recipe's.

    I've got several PM's to check. I will see about responding to those later tonight. Wednesday night church(on line) will take up about an hour.
    John
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    I had promised to send some links and instructions where I couldn't find a link. These first ones apply only to the Alox 606-55.

    https://tinyurl.com/yd3wr4nq (This is an old, extensive thread. Lots of good info)

    This is the rustproofing compound that you can make from Alox 606-55. I don't have a link so I am posting the entire text per request from Steve Hurst:

    Steve's Squeeze
    1 quart deodorized mineral spirits or Exxon ClearLite fuel(Not available for several years).

    1 quart xylene
    1 quart MEK
    1 quart ATF or Marvel Mystery Oil

    For rust protection in storage, add 4 ounces of Lee Liquid Alox per gallon.
    There will be a precipitate in the bottom of the storage container. Do not
    shake the storage container, pour the cleaner off the precipitate for use.

    Because of the increased solvent power of Steve's Squeeze, store it in glass
    or metal containers. Do not store this mixture in plastic bottles. It can
    destroy plastic, and it will evaporate through the plastic. You can use
    polyethylene squeeze bottles for application, but not for storage. Steve's
    Squeeze is harmless to bluing and nickel plating, however it will damage
    many stock finishes.

    Print this label and place on the container:

    RIFLE BORE CLEANER

    CAUTION: HARMFUL IF SWALLOWED.
    KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN

    Flammable mixture, Keep away from heat, sparks or flame.

    Use with adequate ventilation. Avoid breathing vapors or
    spray mist. Avoid contact with skin.
    Keep container tightly closed when not in use.

    FIRST AID, If swallowed DO NOT induce vomiting, call a
    physician immediately. In case of eye contact, immediately
    flush thoroughly with water and call a physician.
    In case of skin contact, wash thoroughly.

    Safe compounding and use are your responsibility.
    (I only posted the entire text because of the last instruction below. There are other recipe's for homemade bore cleaner)

    Storage

    After cleaning with Steve's Squeeze and rinsing with mineral spirits, I
    apply Steve's Squeeze with Liquid Alox for storage. I wear gloves to avoid
    fingerprints, and wrap the gun in a polyethylene plastic wrap, one-gallon
    plastic bags work well for pistols and revolvers, kitchen garbage bags for
    rifles. This prevents removing the coating if you place the gun in a gun
    case and prevents accidental fingerprints when you handle the gun. I put the
    gun in the plastic bag while still wet, the solvents evaporate through the
    plastic and the gun is dry the next time it is used.

    For long term (decades) storage of firearms and ferrous metals, Cosmoline
    has long been the gold standard. For an easy to use replacement for
    Cosmoline, I mix Lee Liquid Alox with an equal amount of deodorized mineral
    spirits and brush it onto the gun. Submerged complex parts like trigger
    assemblies and drip-dry. The same plastic bag system works for long-term
    storage. Heavy plastic bags specifically made for firearms storage are
    available, and may be better in extreme conditions.

    It is easy to remove dried Lee Liquid Alox with mineral spirits or any of
    the spray solvents like carburetor or brake cleaner. Immediately coat the
    gun with Steve's Squeeze, to prevent rust.
    You are free to copy this article provided you send it in its entirety.
    Steve Hurst
    (Keep in mind that these are referring to Lee Liquid Alox, not Alox 606-55. The big difference is that 606-55 is not thinned to the extent that LLA is. EXPERIMENT!)

    Molly 02-23-2008 02:39 PM
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    From Molly:

    Lee and Lyman sell "liquid Alox", and it works pretty well.

    The formula for Alox 2138F (no longer available) is as follows:

    Material Wt %
    Melt in a double boiler:
    Alox 350 7.00 (The exact amount isn’t critical. Use 10 or 20 parts if you want.)
    Slowly stir in until dissolved
    Petrolite C-700 3.00 (Microcrystalline wax)
    Blend until fully melted and dissolved.
    Add slowly with good mixing:
    Alox 350 90.00 (Remainder for a total of 97 parts Alox 350)
    Blend until uniform. 100.00 Alox 2138F

    To make the NRA lube, you can now add 100 parts weight of melted clean, pure yellow beeswax to the preceding and mix well.

    The NRA lube can be molded as you may desire. I’ve found it convenient to just pour it into small cans or even muffin tins. When I need to refill a sizer, it’s simple enough to set the can (or a muffin sized block in an aluminum measuring cup) in simmering hot water to melt the lube, and pour it into the sizer. Allow to cool well before using.

    If you simply MUST have it in stick form, solder a tube of the desired diameter near the bottom of a gallon can, and open on both sides, and deburr. Fill the can with water and ice, and pour the tube full of molten lube. It'll harden pretty quickly, and can be pushed out with a stick. If you MUST have a hollow tube of lube, insert an old valve rod in the center opposite the fill side. (Play with a jig to hold it center.)Then pull it out before you eject the lube.

    Alox 350 is one of a series of "oxidized petroleum fractions" (ie, partially burnt grease) originally developed by Alox Corp, of Niagra Falls, NY. However, they are now defunct, and the Alox line has been taken over by Lubrizol Corporation, who discontinued the Alox 2138F as too low in sales volume, but continues to offer the Alox 350 and a number of other Alox products, including the stuff sold as "Liquid Alox". You should be able to find them easily on the net at: http://corporate.lubrizol.com/.

    Regards,
    Molly


    This is the recipe I use to make NRA Lube from Alox 350. Molly was Ken Mollohan. Some of you may remember he was quite active and knowledgeable on Cast Boolits. He passed on a few years ago.

    I couldn't find the full thread. I'll be glad to email a copy to you if anyone who posted to this thread originally. It probably is somewhere in the archives(http://castboolits.gunloads.com/arch...x.php/f-8.html)

    I hope this fulfills the promise made earlier in this thread.
    John
    Last edited by alamogunr; 05-07-2020 at 06:00 PM.
    John
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