MidSouth Shooters SupplyRepackboxRotoMetals2ADvertise here
Titan ReloadingInline FabricationLee PrecisionWideners

Donate Now Goal amount for this year: 6000 USD, Received: 2125 USD (35%)
Our Annual server fund drive is going on now! This donation drive helps fund Cast Boolits for an entire year, and helps support our 2nd amendment rights! You can donate by Paypal by clicking the DONATE button. Or by Cash / Check / MO to the address below:

Willy Snyder
PO Box 2732
Pocatello, ID 83206
****Due to overwhelming e-mails, I will be very slow in updating this list. Please bear with me!****


Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 52

Thread: What is your favorite cast muzzloader bullet for deer and elk

  1. #1
    Boolit Bub
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Posts
    64

    What is your favorite cast muzzloader bullet for deer and elk

    Hi Guys,

    Been out of the cast game for a while, but I am thinking about getting back in to cast some muzzleloader projectiles for my muzzle loader when I hunt western states that require a full bore, all lead projectile.

    What is your favorite mold to use for deer and elk bullets? Lets assume 50 cal (although I might also get a 54 cal)

    I have been doing a fair bit of looking and people seem to like the Lee REAL bullets. Anyone use those and how to they perform on game?

  2. #2
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    4,022
    Sure depends on your rifle and the rate of twist in the rifling. I've used both .50 & .54 R.E.A.L.'s and never had one walk away. Pure lead and good placement means meat in the fridge. Mostly I gravitate towards round balls. Seemingly overlooked by a lot of folks, they are steady & reliable performers for me. I even load shot shells with roundball and have had only one shot kills so far. What distances do you expect and which rifle are you going to use? Open sights or scope? There are so many combos that work very well.

  3. #3
    Boolit Grand Master


    richhodg66's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Kansas
    Posts
    5,829
    Lyman Plains Bullet.

  4. #4
    Moderator Emeritus


    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    SW Montana
    Posts
    10,839
    Round Balls tend to go in a straight line without deflection. TC Maxi will penetrate through anything I have shot at.
    [The Montana Gianni] Front sight and squeeze

  5. #5
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Tom, VA
    Posts
    4,979
    I have two favorites. My Parker-Hale volunteer really shoots the Lyman 451114 well. I like this bullet so much that I built a flintlock with a Green Mountain barrel to also shoot it. It shoots it very well indeed.

    My other favorite is my English stalking rifle, which shoots one-ounce balls (66 caliber) exceedingly well. Both of these bullets kill like lightning.

  6. #6
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Quilcene, Washington
    Posts
    3,092
    Unless I am out in the desert of E. Washington, I use PRB exclusively for deer. Same for either my 45 cal or 50 cal. For elk I preferred a 429 cal 265 gr. SWC inside a sabot for my 50 caliber rifles. I use that sabot load out in the desert for mule deer because it gives me an additional 75 to 100 yards of range.

  7. #7
    Boolit Master brewer12345's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Location
    Denver Metro Area
    Posts
    981
    I like round ball. If you want to use a conical, try a few different ones to see what your rifle shoots best. They all kill game.
    When you care enough to send the very best, send an ounce of lead.

  8. #8
    Boolit Grand Master


    Larry Gibson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Lake Havasu City, Arizona
    Posts
    18,218
    I use a TC Black Mountain Magnum 50 cal. Its made for 150 gr charges and saboted bullets (28" twist) but has a tradition side hammer lock and traditional look. I use the 350 gr TC MaxiBall cast in a TC mould but the Lyman mould casts the same bullet. I cast them of 16-1 alloy and lube the bottom groove. I load them over 90 gr Triple 7 FFFg . Velocity runs 1540 fps with excellent accuracy at 100 yards for 6 shots (1 in the barrel plus 5 in speed loaders) with out wiping or cleaning. Thumps deer and elk quite well.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	019.JPE 
Views:	37 
Size:	33.5 KB 
ID:	260821
    Larry Gibson

    “Deficient observation is merely a form of ignorance and responsible for the many morbid notions and foolish ideas prevailing.”
    ― Nikola Tesla

  9. #9
    Boolit Bub
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Posts
    64
    Quote Originally Posted by 725 View Post
    Sure depends on your rifle and the rate of twist in the rifling. I've used both .50 & .54 R.E.A.L.'s and never had one walk away. Pure lead and good placement means meat in the fridge. Mostly I gravitate towards round balls. Seemingly overlooked by a lot of folks, they are steady & reliable performers for me. I even load shot shells with roundball and have had only one shot kills so far. What distances do you expect and which rifle are you going to use? Open sights or scope? There are so many combos that work very well.
    Right now the only muzzleloader I have is a TC firestorm Flintlock. I grew up in PA so I had that for the flintlock season. Like the post above, it's a traditional side lock but the barrel is made for 150 grain charges and sabots, so I usually shoot Barnes expanders in that.

    Now that I live in Ohio and want to up my chances in western states by applying for black powder tags, I want to get a modern inline. I am just about set on a CVA Accura Mountain Rifle, so that is a 1:28 twist. Most of the time I am sure I'll be shooting a Barnes sabot bullet in it, but there are a lot of western states that outlaw sabots, and a few that even say the boolit must be lead - and this is where my question comes from. I have been considering the Lee REALs, or some kind of Maxi-Ball, but due to the fast twist, I was even considering possibly paper patching a 50 cal pistol bullet.

  10. #10
    Boolit Master brewer12345's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Location
    Denver Metro Area
    Posts
    981
    I don't do inlines, so no help from me. I would guess a maxi ball would shoot really well with a 1:28 twist, but you will have to try it. Keep in mind that if you are planning to hunt in Colorado no optics or pellets are allowed.
    When you care enough to send the very best, send an ounce of lead.

  11. #11
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Outside Rolla, Missouri
    Posts
    1,268
    Same thing I've been using for over 45 years, patched round ball. It's killed everything I've shot it at...a nd has been doing so for close on to 500 years.
    "In general, the art of government is to take as much money as possible from one class of citizens and give it to another class of citizens" Voltaire'

    The common virtue of capitalism is the sharing of equal opportunity. The common vice of socialism is the equal sharing of misery

    NRA Benefactor 2008

  12. #12
    Boolit Master RU shooter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    SW Pa.
    Posts
    2,546
    Maxi ball
    If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

  13. #13
    Boolit Grand Master



    missionary5155's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Back in Sunny, Warm Arequipa till 2020
    Posts
    6,083
    Greetings
    A .58 round ball cast of 40-1. Propelled with 85 grains of Goex 3F. But then I hunt river bottoms and my farthest shot still 33yards. Most corn crunchers are well closer than that.
    "Come unto Me, all you who labor and are heavy burdened, and I will give you rest." Matthew 11:28
    Male Guanaco out in dry lakebed at 10,800 feet south of Arequipa.

  14. #14
    Cast Hunter




    RugerFan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Mat-Su, Alaska
    Posts
    2,052
    Quote Originally Posted by richhodg66 View Post
    Lyman Plains Bullet.
    Concur. I got best accuracy in full bore conicals with this.

    Quote Originally Posted by atl5029 View Post
    Right now the only muzzleloader I have is a TC firestorm Flintlock. I grew up in PA so I had that for the flintlock season. Like the post above, it's a traditional side lock but the barrel is made for 150 grain charges and sabots, so I usually shoot Barnes expanders in that.

    Now that I live in Ohio and want to up my chances in western states by applying for black powder tags, I want to get a modern inline. I am just about set on a CVA Accura Mountain Rifle, so that is a 1:28 twist. Most of the time I am sure I'll be shooting a Barnes sabot bullet in it, but there are a lot of western states that outlaw sabots, and a few that even say the boolit must be lead - and this is where my question comes from. I have been considering the Lee REALs, or some kind of Maxi-Ball, but due to the fast twist, I was even considering possibly paper patching a 50 cal pistol bullet.
    Yes, paper patching can work very well. I used to cast and paper patch the Lyman 446110 for a friend's brother that shot them out of a .45 cal ML. He raved about the accuracy and used them for mule deer.
    Boone and Crockett Club member
    <<----------------<<<<<<
    Pope & Young Club member


  15. #15
    Boolit Mold
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    Missouri Ozarks
    Posts
    7
    I shoot a .535 patched round ball in the TC Hawken
    Weight is 230 gr propelled by 70 grains of Goex ffg
    It has done a great job on anything from targets to deer

  16. #16
    Boolit Man
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Location
    Northern Indiana
    Posts
    94
    My rifle is a Lyman Great Plains 54 caliber flint lock. It has never digested anything but round ball. I see no reason to change...……….robin

  17. #17
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    Minnesota
    Posts
    3,585
    A round ball is still the gold standard. While the rules read full bore lead projectile, oddly enough a patched round ball is always exempt. I have no idea if the same round ball with one of those poly patches is legal, but a cloth patch is always allowed. The REAL's I'm sure work great on game, but with very few exceptions shoot very poor. I've tried both 50 and 54 caliber versions, and the best I ever got was about 2 1/2"-3" groups at 50 yards. The great plains worked better, the only problem being they can be hard to load. The maxiball was the best shooting conical I have tried. If you get a modern inline, they are all fast twist barrels. I have not shot mine in some time, but a paper patched 50 caliber bullet sure seemed promising. Also very popular is a bore sized conical like sold by No Excuses bullets.

  18. #18
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Bryson City, NC
    Posts
    313
    54 cal Thompson Center Renegade, patched round ball.
    CF
    Vote Independent, vote Republican, vote Democratic, just don’t vote Incumbent!
    I believe in the Bible, Freedom, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and personal responsibility. My government believes I am narrow minded, intolerant and dangerous.

  19. #19
    Boolit Bub
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Northern Nevada
    Posts
    73
    I have taken elk with Lee REAL bullets in both .58 and .50 calibers. Also I have used a 600 grain custom mold 58 cal. in a fast twist .58 under hammer I built and the 500 grain Lee .45-70 bullet sized to .452 and in a sabot in a 50 cal. in line. All of the elk (6) died within 50 yards of impact and most DRT. Pure lead, heavy bullets and proper shot placement have always worked for me. For deer the same billets work fine, but if I want to flatten trajectory, I use 350 or 405 grain .45 cal bullets in Harvester sabots in my .50 cal White in line.

  20. #20
    Boolit Buddy
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Somewhere in Utah
    Posts
    186
    I shoot a .50 caliber T/C Hawken, 370 grain Maxi-ball over 90 grains of 3f.
    Kills them dead right there.
    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty or Safety. "
    Benjamin Franklin

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check