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Thread: True Blackpowder Source(s)

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    I'm a huge fan of Graf & Sons. I've found them to be first rate and super helpful. Link below is to their black powder.

    https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog...ategoryId/3501

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    I,m with lags, I have been making my own for years. Shoots as good as any you buy. Once you do you will never go back to buying it.

    Fly

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    BP is hard to get here and at over $50 U.S a pound, years ago I just started making my own. Went out to the shed yesterday and about an hour later had a Kilo made. Fly`s: thread is a good read. I don`t bother with pressing or granulating just a quiet simmer over the stove and a 10 min stir then civ a couple of times , let it dry and its ready. I`m using side locks and a T/C Hawken ( the deer and goats don't seem to mind it`s not granulated). I get about 28 kilos of powder for the cost of one pound of Goex. In the U.S seems to be a little harder to get Potassium nitrate but I buy it in 25kg bags from farm suppliers for about $30 U.S.
    With a front stuffer just use twice the thrown measure you would with 2ff Goex. It`s my understanding granulated powder didn`t exist until the cartridge case was invented so Davy Crocket and friends would have used something similar to what I make.

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    And years gone bye , people like Daniel Boone and many mountain men used Bat Guano for their Potassium Nitrate.
    And had no access to metal screens.
    Boy , do we have it good now a days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dapaki View Post
    Just a couple cans, better than WANO but sub-par to Swiss. Canon grade, not in a cart.
    I thought Wano and Scheutzen was the same stuff????
    Same factory different can???
    Same factory different grade???
    Different factory??
    Whats the story??

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    Quote Originally Posted by indian joe View Post
    I thought Wano and Scheutzen was the same stuff????
    Same factory different can???
    Same factory different grade???
    Different factory??
    Whats the story??
    https://schuetzenpowder.com/about-schuetzen-powder/

    https://schuetzenpowder.com/

    https://schuetzenpowder.com/swiss-black-powder/#

    https://schuetzenpowder.com/schuetzen-black-powder-2/

    https://schuetzenpowder.com/wano/
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    I get my powder from-
    http://www.blackpowderva.com/
    Good guy to work with and a fellow N-SSA competitor.

    That said, I've worked with "red can" Goex, Schutzen, Old Eynsford and Swiss. All of them work. Some better than others. For target/accuracy/competition shooting- Old E and Swiss hands down. They cost a bit more but are more "energetic" so you use less so the "cost" isn't really a factor. Schutzen makes Swiss and Goex makes Old E. Sorta like buying premium gas for your car. Fouling is less with Swiss and Old E, no question. I was shooting primarily Old E for a number of years as the dealer was about 20miles from the house, but now he's gone out of business so I stock up with Swiss when I'm at Fort Shenandoah in Winchester at Back Creek. Goex/Schutzen, good all round powder for just shooting. Fouls a bit more, have to use more to get the same velocity as Swiss.
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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check