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    30-30 youth load

    Does anybody have thought on a good youth load for 30-30? I am looking for boolit and powder charge for a 9 yr old. He likes my old waffle top so I'm looking to download so my grandson can use the lever action and later use it to deer hunt. I could buy some 110 grain if it would make a good starter load. I got Lyman's 50th just wondering if someone has made somthing a little softer to start with. Thanks Doze

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    A 150 fp or 170 fp over 4-5 grains of bullseye hits hard and recoils like a 22lr.
    If you bump a 150 cast soft to about 1500-1600 fps they are mild and probably good to 100yrds as a estimate.

    Some one will be along shortly.

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    Bruce gave you a pretty good starting load with a 150 or 170 grain bullet for a young shooter, recoil will be mild. With the right alloy the same bullet can be pushed faster for hunting. I have found 15 to 16 grains of IMR4227 to be a good, medium, and usually accurate load which will produce velocities in the 1,500fps range which should be OK for hunting with ranges limited to 100 yds or less.
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    I shoot a 168 gc boolit powder coated with 8.9 grains of Green Dot. Low recoil and very accurate to 100 yards.

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    In my 16 inch barreled Winchester 94AE, Trapper: I use 15.5 Alliante 2400 with the Missouri Bullet Company coated 165 grain bullet, and with the Berry 150 Grain 30-30 Bullets.

    I did not chrono the Missouri Bullets., but they shot well, and I used a Wolf Large Pistol Primer.

    Chrono results for the Berry Plated 150 grain bullet were:

    1683fps, SD of 9 for a three shot group, Federal Large Rifle primers, 85 degree day

    Also: 9.5 Trail Boss/Federal Large Rifle primer/Missouri Bullet Co. 165 are subsonic (1020fps) with 2moa (1inch) accuracy at 50yards.

    20.7 Reloader #7 produced 1630fps With the Missouri Bullet and 2moa at 50yds.

    I have had the best accuracy and lowest Standard Deviations With the Federal Large Rifle primers, and 2400.
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    I shoot a NOE plan base 165 RD over 8.7 gr of unique out of my Sears / Chester for a lot of fun , they stay in a inch or so at 50 yards most of the time , and are not very loud at all .
    Wanna try some ..........
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    Before I got laid off, I picked up some 150gr Berry's plated boolits and some Trailboss. Works fine at close ranges (say 50 yd or so) and really pleasant to shoot.

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    If you have any 32 cal molds you can load then to shoot in your 30-30 .I do that and also 00 buck shot. Do a search on here and your will find the info you need.
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    While I am talking about an older kid, my daughter got her first deer with a Winchester 150gr factory load at about age 13. She shot a few deer with that load.

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    Posted twice
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    I believe one of the vendor members here Casting Machine had coated 115 gr coated 30 carbine cast boolits for sale .......

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    Personally I'd start with the Speer 130 grain bullets and rifle powder.

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    Lee 113 fp and 7.0 to 10.0 gr Unique.
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    Chronograph data from my ca. 1942 Winchester 94 with 20”barrel:

    Remington 110-gr. JSP (.30 M1 Carbine) Also OK with 110-grain Speer Varminter FN
    28 grs. IMR4198 2359 fps, 32 Sd – explosive varmint performance, requires re-zeroing from factory 150s
    5.0 Bullseye, 1039 fps, 10 Sd – sights on at 50 ft. if zeroed +4” at 100 with 150-gr. factory SPs, quiet.
    6.0 Bullseye, 1232 fps, 26 Sd – nondestructive small game / turkey load approximates .32-20, no expansion
    7.0 Bullseye, 1396 fps, 14 Sd – noticeably louder than subsonic but is more accurate, 1” groups 50 yards

    Accurate 31-115K “Winchester Small Game” LFN, wheelweights, unsized .311”, LLA
    3.5 grs. Bullseye, 901 fps, 11 Sd - 3” low at 25 yds. “Cat Sneeze” minimum to exit bore.
    5.0 grs. Bullseye, 1207 fps, 9 Sd – 1” groups at 50 yds. Mild, quiet, like .22 LR HV
    6.0 grs. Bullseye, 1350 fps, 6 Sd – shoots flatter, louder, like .32-20. Max. load for plain base bullet

    Remington 150-gr. SPCL, OK to substitute Speer or Hornady 150-grain FN .30-30 bullets
    16 grs. #2400, 1636 fps, 18 Sd – approximates .32-40 Winchester energy, but only slight bullet expansion
    18 grs. #2400, 1804 fps, 22 Sd – good, adequate bullet expansion, “light recoil” load for Junior Hunters
    22 grs. H4427, 1917 fps, 36 Sd - another good light recoil hunting load for Junior hunters
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    Hogdons reduced 4895 data works pretty well
    https://www.hodgdon.com/wp-content/u...ifle-loads.pdf
    Long range rules, the rest drool.

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    I have used the Lee 120 grain round nose in the 30-30 but it is a little short at the crimp groove. Works great in my 32-20. Speer makes the 110 grain "plinker" which is designed for this use and has a crimp groove.

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    Ahh, Thanks for all replies, he will get to shoot and carry Big Boy gun and be a good confidence and saftey builder plus no better time to start learning his reloading skills! This will great , Thanks

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    I've used the Lee TL 31490SWC for light 30-30 loads for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don McDowell View Post
    Hogdons reduced 4895 data works pretty well
    https://www.hodgdon.com/wp-content/u...ifle-loads.pdf
    Not only do Hodgdons data work well, but you have a range of charge weights of H4895 from 60% below max up to max. You can have anything from mild to wild, as they say. These data work well with cast bullets as well.

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    Lee Soup Can or similar, five grains of Bullseye or a little more Red Dot, Unique or 700X. Lots and lots and lots of load data in any of the cast bullet manuals for the .30-30 and it's one of those cartridges that downloads ridiculously easily.

    If you don't cast, there's lots of commercially swaged .32 pistol bullets out there that will do the same thing.

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