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    Do you believe in Karma

    Do you believe that ones actions bring upon oneself inevitable results, good or bad, either in this life or in a the next. Do you believe that good deeds in this life will be rewarded with a better life? Do you believe that bad deeds in this life will be punished in this life or in an after life?

    Do you believe it is possible to be a bad person and live a happy life?

    Do you believe it is possible to be a good person and always have to suffer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtknowles View Post
    Do you believe that ones actions bring upon oneself inevitable results, good or bad, either in this life or in a the next.
    Maybe not the inevitable or in the next life part.
    That remains to be seen.

    But in my past, and the here & now-
    Yeah, I do. I've seen Karma happen too many times not to believe it.
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    Very firm believer in Karma and when it comes time to be judged your entire life will be examined.

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    I'm not sure what the translation for the word 'karma' would be. If it means judgment, yes, I believe in judgment, and in a perfectly just Judge.
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    Boy- that's a tough one. I too have seen examples (and experienced) good fortune not too long after doing a good dead. The good book talks about "reap what you sow". I adhere to the school of thought that you do what you can to make another person's life a little better and thus far it has come back to me. Everyone's mileage is going to vary on this.

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    I don’t believe that if I do good deeds I will be rewarded. But I do believe in what goes around comes around. Treat people bad and it will come back on you at some point. I’ve heard the saying in show business about being nice to people on your way up because you’re going to see them on your way down.

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    I believe that you reap what you sow. If you are doing things that are hurting people, it will come back and bite you in the butt.

    If you are helping those in trouble through no fault of their own help will be there for you when you need it.

    As an example, I have a neighbor 2 doors down, she has a black lab and a fenced in back yard. So for the last several years I would take my small dog to play, and while the dogs did their thing the two of us would sit and talk.

    Her husband had died, left behind some bills, pretty much cleaned her out. She is my age trying to subsist on SS of around 500$ a month.

    She's been working for an organization similar to Hospice. Where she goes into peoples homes who are incapable of doing much. Cooks, cleans, does the laundry, shops for them, etc.

    Well in the last 2 years for Chistmas she has gotten an Insta-pot and a good Vacumn sealer machine and rolls of bags from us.

    The last 2 weeks my wife has been laid up with terrible back and leg pains, had surgery on her back. I was trying to do 3 jobs all at once. My normal chores, my wifes normal chores, and escorting my wife around so she does not hurt herself or fall.

    Within an hour of me surrendering to the Lord, saying I can't do it all. She shows up, does the laundry, dishes, sweeps, vacuums. Works hard for 2.5 hours and then argued with me about her getting paid.


    No good deed may good unpunished. But Good deeds done for their own sake fly off, have children, and come home to roost when they are needed.

    Karma works, and it does not go away. Duck it in this life and it will come back at you 10fold in the next.

    Be good to those around you, love them, care for them. It will be worth it in the long run.

    As to the OP, I think it is very possible to be a bad person and "think" your happy. But I believe a turning will come and that person will find out just how miserable they truly are. But karma is not instant, takes time.

    As for good person suffering, that depends on WHY they are suffering. Are they haunted by themselves?
    Is there good on the surface but bad underneath, or deeds done that are bad that no one knows about?

    We can not judge, we do not see, know all. Only the Lord God Almighty can look and see all. And we will each have our time before him when we will have to explain our actions. And bear the consequences of them.

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    Maybe I am too cynical.
    When I hear politicians and media people tell outrageous lies and they get away with it time after time and nothing ever happens to them, it's hard to believe in any sort of natural justice anywhere.
    Political correctness is a national suicide pact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hickory View Post
    Maybe I am too cynical.
    When I hear politicians and media people tell outrageous lies and they get away with it time after time and nothing ever happens to them, it's hard to believe in any sort of natural justice anywhere.
    Nothing seems to happen to them. You don’t know everything about their personal life. They may lose a lot of loved ones. They may have financial issues that we never hear about. Because we don’t know everything about their life they may be suffering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtknowles View Post
    Do you believe that ones actions bring upon oneself inevitable results, good or bad, either in this life or in a the next.
    Tim
    Yes, but not at all the way you mean. And I believe you know it, you're just trying to stir up another pot of poo.

    God can and does reward good here as well as in heaven but not all the bad things that happen here are for punishment.

    God will certainly dispense deserved punishment (justice) for bad, both here and later.

    But, either way, there ain't no Hindu god called the Great Karma In The Sky doing it.

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    Biblically, the idea of actions and consequences is complex.

    The final answer is that people will eventually answer for what they have done on earth when they die.

    During a person's lifetime they generally experience consequences that are direct results of their actions. This is built into the system that God created; it's just they way it works. Two examples:

    1. We get an education so we can get a good job. Then we work hard and have a financially successful life (see Proverbs).

    2. A man is involved in violet crime and eventually killed during commission of a robbery (live by the sword, die by the sword).

    There are other times when people have bad (or good) things happen to them that are beyond their control (e.g., Tower of Siloam accident).

    Lastly, there are other times, albeit rare, where God steps in and takes action (Conversion of Saul or Ananias and Sapphira).

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    I do not worry about it much.

    I have been "burned" doing what I thought was the right thing....no good dead goes unpunished.

    God does not keep score....if we believe Jesus died for our sins and accepting Him is a "ticket" to heaven. Many believe all sins are equal so the concept of God keeping score on Judgement Day is meaningless. If murdering a child is equivalent to stealing a $1 out of your desk drawer...well it seems silly to me. So I do not believe all sins are equal.

    Try to live as good a life as I can with the limitations I have. I am judgmental and do not suffer fools easily.

    In the last year I have given much more to the needy. I have given less to the church but more to individuals I think are deserving. In part, because I have doubts about my church and its agenda. Not sure if that is due to my judgmental nature or if God is directing me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ickisrulz View Post
    Biblically, the idea of actions and consequences is complex.

    The final answer is that people will eventually answer for what they have done on earth when they die.

    During a person's lifetime they generally experience consequences that are direct results of their actions. This is built into the system that God created; it's just they way it works. Two examples:

    1. We get an education so we can get a good job. Then we work hard and have a financially successful life (see Proverbs).

    2. A man is involved in violet crime and eventually killed during commission of a robbery (live by the sword, die by the sword).

    There are other times when people have bad (or good) things happen to them that are beyond their control (e.g., Tower of Siloam accident).

    Lastly, there are other times, albeit rare, where God steps in and takes action (Conversion of Saul or Ananias and Sapphira).
    I was wondering if what we often consider Luck, is Karma. Some people seem to be lucky and others unlucky. Do you think it is random or is God pulling strings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dverna View Post
    I do not worry about it much.

    I have been "burned" doing what I thought was the right thing....no good dead goes unpunished.

    God does not keep score....if we believe Jesus died for our sins and accepting Him is a "ticket" to heaven. Many believe all sins are equal so the concept of God keeping score on Judgement Day is meaningless. If murdering a child is equivalent to stealing a $1 out of your desk drawer...well it seems silly to me. So I do not believe all sins are equal.

    Try to live as good a life as I can with the limitations I have. I am judgmental and do not suffer fools easily.

    In the last year I have given much more to the needy. I have given less to the church but more to individuals I think are deserving. In part, because I have doubts about my church and its agenda. Not sure if that is due to my judgmental nature or if God is directing me.
    If God does not keep score then the whole idea of right and wrong seems meaningless. I understand some people believe God's judgement is just a judgement on your faith in Jesus.

    I think it is obvious that not all sins are equal, it does not matter that some interpretation of some book could lead to different ideas.

    I was more talking about in the here and now not salvation. Do you think God rewards good and punishes evil while we live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtknowles View Post
    I was wondering if what we often consider Luck, is Karma. Some people seem to be lucky and others unlucky. Do you think it is random or is God pulling strings.

    Tim
    While I do not discount prayer or God's actions in our lives, I don't believe that God is behind the scenes directing everything that happens. "Everything happens for a reason" is not an idea from the Bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ickisrulz View Post
    While I do not discount prayer or God's actions in our lives, I don't believe that God is behind the scenes directing everything that happens. "Everything happens for a reason" is not an idea from the Bible.
    Might there be some things that the Bible does not speak too?

    If God only intervened in our life but once it could make a huge difference.

    Sure, not everything happens for a reason but maybe sometimes a good deed is rewarded?

    Might sometimes what you thought was a good deed is punished because your motives were selfish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtknowles View Post
    Might there be some things that the Bible does not speak too?

    If God only intervened in our life but once it could make a huge difference.

    Sure, not everything happens for a reason but maybe sometimes a good deed is rewarded?

    Might sometimes what you thought was a good deed is punished because your motives were selfish?

    Tim

    God can and has intervened in peoples' lives. The Bible attests to this. But it is an exception, not the rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtknowles View Post
    If God does not keep score then the whole idea of right and wrong seems meaningless. I understand some people believe God's judgement is just a judgement on your faith in Jesus.

    I think it is obvious that not all sins are equal, it does not matter that some interpretation of some book could lead to different ideas.

    I was more talking about in the here and now not salvation. Do you think God rewards good and punishes evil while we live.

    Tim
    Tim, in your original post you wrote. "Do you believe that bad deeds in this life will be punished in this life or in an after life?"

    For many of us, the "after life" is of much more consequence...sorry if I went down the wrong rabbit hole. For me the after life is heaven or hell.
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