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    lubing swaged factory bullets

    years ago when I first got a revolver and used lead bullets I ran across a few threads from someone who had shot PPC. He said that it was typical to lubricate bullets using oil cup grease sticks from Ford engine grease cups. also said to use a thin coating inside the barrel, just give it a day to film over.

    Have not tried that, but using a thin coat of lithium grease on the tips of loaded rounds does great for the barrel insides, but nothing for the forcing cone.

    And with spear 158 grain swc for 38s, they need some help despite the film lube speer uses. Despite the fact that they have a make believe cannelure on them, just how do you go about lubing up swaged bullets that don't have lube grooves

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    I would try BLL.

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    I use 45/45/10 and shoot many thousands per year. Works wonderfully.

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    So, if I'm reading this correctly, you can effectively lube a swaged bullet (like the notoriously soft Speers) with 45-45-10 or something similar and greatly reduce or eliminate leading at moderate velocities? i have a couple boxes of Speer .430 bullets that I would like to load up for use in my Charter Arms Bulldog Pug. I was wondering if White Label 45-45-10 would adhere well over the factory film lube?

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    I use BLL on all the old lazer and Remington lead bullets I had lying around recently as the hard lube was coming off. Seems to do the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WickedWillie View Post
    So, if I'm reading this correctly, you can effectively lube a swaged bullet (like the notoriously soft Speers) with 45-45-10 or something similar and greatly reduce or eliminate leading at moderate velocities? i have a couple boxes of Speer .430 bullets that I would like to load up for use in my Charter Arms Bulldog Pug. I was wondering if White Label 45-45-10 would adhere well over the factory film lube?
    So...I finally tried this after obtaining some White Label 45-45-10 lube. Put about 30 bullets in a Cool Whip container. That was easy. Then I "tried" to pour a small amount of lube into the container. Obviously, I got too much...I'm thinking I need to invest in an eye dropper or something similar to control the amount of lube...a small squeeze bottle, maybe? Swished 'em around a bit...and it made the most obnoxious black, gooey mess I've seen. Apparently, the 45-45-10 acted as a solvent and loosened up the lube film that Speer uses. Kept on adding bullets and agitating them, till they started to look "right." Poured them out onto a sheet of wax paper. That was yesterday...I'll check them tonight to see how well they are coated and how well them have dried.
    This is not to disparage White Label at all...I need to refine my technique. Will update when I have more info.

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    It's hard to put the right amount of lube in a tub. First, do more bullets at a session; I usually lube about 150. That makes it easier to not use too much lube. Second, try using a teaspoon to measure lube. A little less than a level teaspoon is about right for 150 45 caliber bullets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabezaverde View Post
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    Using a very small amount. If the LLA is thick put bottle in cup/small pan of hot tap water for 10 minutes. It gets runny and applying a real thin coat is easy. By thin I mean a light yellow brown tint is all that is needed. Let dry thoroughly before using the bullets. Once one learns to use LLA correctly [a thin coat] then thinning the LLA with mineral spirits isn't necessary unless the LLA has thickened up from age. Then I add just a bit of mineral spirits and stir shake until it is back to it's normal thickness.
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    Even though they are soft, they should not lead the barrel, that is frequently the fault of loading process. Improper expander size or resizing too small will allow a soft bullet to swage during seating. Then you get leading. Try unresized shells for comparison. You'll be amazed

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    And keep your loads in the 700 fps to 800 fps range .
    Speer shows data with a few loads @ 900 + fps but I believe they are too soft and would stick to 850 fps max .
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