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    I love all the great suggestions guys!

    I keep my Lyman deburrer in my little lathe, set it as slow as she will turn. I have dummy cases set up for all my loads (seater) but will definitely do the same for my trimmer now!

    I turned a simple punch for my .224" LEE sizer, made it an inch longer than the OEM one and reduced the stem by .005 to remove the lip from fired .22 cases. I mail them off to a swager and get some finished bullets for doing the part he hates the most!

    I also turned a neck flare tool for .223 cases pre set to .005 bell so I dont shear off the PC when setting cast boolits.

    Does homemade resizing lube count? 4 oz bottle of liquid Lanolin added to a 32 oz bottle of 99% isopropyl alcohol. No case dents when dried!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangitgriff View Post
    Can you skip the case lube if you just neck-size rifle brass?
    I have neck sizing dies for all of my bolt gun cases and I don't use any lube on any of them to neck size. I use the Lee Collet Neck Sizing dies and the instructions say you don't need lube with them, and I have never had any problems. Since they don't make a neck sizing die for 7.62X54R I use a F/L Sizing die, I set it up by putting a nickel on top of the shell holder and set the die up touching the nickel. I had to fine tune the adjustment a little but it works great.

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    Sometimes a handmade tool does a job better than anything off-the-shelf. As an RC modeler, I have a supply of music wire on hand. If you're not familiar, music wire is a tough low carbon spring steel available at hobby shops. One of the tools I made from it is 1/16" wire about 4" long and ground to a tapered point about 3/8"-1/2" long. The other end was heated and bent over 180° on itself for a very short distance to keep it from rolling. It's not for anything specific but I have found myself reaching for it frequently. Another similar tool has a flat end that is polished to a slight dome. It's made of .078" or 3/32" wire. Another one is ground to a chisel tip like a screwdriver but to a fine edge. I keep all of them plus the shank of an old ice pick on the shelf behind the presses. They're handy for clearing media from a flash hole (blunt tip) and all sorts of fine operations/repairs/clearing out of foreign material. This suggestion probably sounds useless but trust me, mine have become invaluable since I made them many years ago. No pics; haven't built the shop yet since moving so I can't access anything.
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    I don't have it anymore but I'm looking to make one. I had a 1/8" brass rod that I filed a taper on one end and used very effectively for a carbon scraper and general rag and patch pusher.

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    On my RC-II press I had trouble with depriming where the expelled primers would "ping" all over the room. I see guys with fancy primer catchers...but I found that a good old fashioned drinking straw cut to the slot length and pressed in will slow down the expelled primers enough that they land in the supplied primer cup. The best straws were from Burger King...they had a larger diameter.

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    Used the same method as the OP and then a socket (forgot which size) with the de-burring tool reversed. Used one of the drill to square drive adapters to chuck it in the drill and apiece of tape to keep the de-burring tool from falling out of the socket. When I got the Lyman tool that comes as a set with chamfer and primer pocket cleaners housed in the in the handle (gold colored aluminum) cut about 1.5" off the tip end of a broken cleaning rod and chuck the rod in my drill and then screw whatever tool I want into it. Found another useful tool was a drill chuck that threads onto the end of the shaft on my bench grinder. Can use it almost like a lathe with the part held in the chuck and spun by the grinder. Chucked a counter bore into it and removed the crimp from 2K 5.56 brass slicker than owl poop on a greased log.

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    Like some of ya'll GONRA puts proper "shell holder / shell holder insert" in each die box too. At 83 years olde - its pretty much "a necessity".....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangitgriff View Post
    Can you skip the case lube if you just neck-size rifle brass?
    You can, I prefer to lube the necks with Imperial graphite with the small ceramic balls that hold the graphite. Just dip the neck into the small jar. Eliminates any possibility of lube contaminating your powder. Also eliminates that dry screeching noise when you neck size

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    This is not my idea but have used it for years . For deburring after case trimming use a nut driver filled with steel wool in a drill on slow speed .

    It will do both the inside and the outside of the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ipopum View Post
    This is not my idea but have used it for years . For deburring after case trimming use a nut driver filled with steel wool in a drill on slow speed .

    It will do both the inside and the outside of the case.
    Hmmmmmm....Thanks - I'll have to try this one!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ipopum View Post
    This is not my idea but have used it for years . For deburring after case trimming use a nut driver filled with steel wool in a drill on slow speed .

    It will do both the inside and the outside of the case.
    Seems like a good one!!!
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    Good thread . . .
    Between seeing other hand-loader's benches and how they are set up, or having read a 'tip-N-trick' article, or having a friend who is innovative and shares with me...or just having that light bulb come on in my head...over the years my shop has filled with these 'ahhh-haaa' & 'Eureka' moments...

    I went down to the shop to photograph a single item for this post and realized after looking around a bit...these moments are everywhere in here.
    Take this photo for instance...


    top center> my powder trickler has an old radio knob stuck on the small knurled shaft that makes it easy to trickle very gently with one finger and without disturbing the digital scale it usually sits on.

    right side> in front of the scale there's an old magnifying glass held in a yellow broken plastic clamp...makes it 'easy-peezy' to trickle into the beam scale and see perfectly my load workups with my old eyes.

    center right> my dippers used most often sit in a plastic cartridge holder that comes in the box of ammo from the store, and the one by itself sits on top of a rattle can paint lid for powder with a bamboo skewer glued across the top of it to rake my dippers off level.

    center left> my hand case trimmer has a little piece of red plastic tubing stuck on the shaft you fellas have been chucking in a drill motor, when you place a case over the plastic stub it will center much better on the trimmer without getting caught on one of the three sides...this isn't a perfect cure for miss-allignment but it certainly is a big help.
    Below that is the adapter you can buy locally to use that hand trimmer in a drill motor and have access to the inside case trimmer too.

    below that> on the case trimmer I have a home-spun adapter for the drill motor, a broken hex adapter welded to a grade 8 allen screw that replaces the handle screw...at the time I made this, I wasn't aware you can just buy these things at the store....duuuuh! But it still works just fine.

    right of the drill motor> you see a cartridge checker and a shell holder, they are sitting on a 1"x1/2"x2" magnet...they stay where I set them and I don't knock them off the bench so much or loose them.
    Better than a magnet for the shell holders, I have a little wood plank I drilled out so I could glue in little dowels to hold the shell holders that were either in a die box or a drawer...constantly had to make sure the one I found was the one I needed...this way they 'should be' located where I put them after use.



    Over by the RockChucker on the left side you see my Imperial sizing wax can sitting on a magnet also...nothing is worse than to let it slip off the table to the floor and get the wax dusty & gritty...that magnet keeps that tin right where I want it.

    below the case trimmer> is an old Lee 2 cav. mould that a good friend, 'Backyard Inventor' modified for me for a surprise...this is an extreme 'Ahhh-haaa' moment for me. I can cast uniform slugs of the lead I use and have them for BHN testing...no more filing flats on the sides of the casts for testing.
    When I preheat my moulds for casting, I put this one in the mould oven and when the melt is ready, I take about 3 samples of that lead...one I'll test on cast day and the other slugs I can test at a later date to see how much and how fast the lead hardens with time.



    A terrific improvement for testing because I can adjust the test dimple die so that the press will cam over...yes cam over and I can time the dimple for the 30 seconds without trying to hold that press lever still at some point in-between, all the time the plunger top is exactly flush with the top of the die...again 'easy-peezy', I just love this!



    I could go on and on...everywhere in the shop is something, some little something that has made life better, casting or loading or testing rounds in my home-spun lead bullet catcher out back of the shop...just a few more and I'll quit...
    Below is a cheap little screw & bolt box from Harbor Freight...it has worked out terrific for storing unused steel moulds coated in 'mineral oil'...another tip an East Coast friend told me about. I cut an artist brush to fit inside the bottle and keep it there. Mineral oil cooks off the mould quickly and doesn't leave those 'gas wrinkles' you have to stop and clean. I just quickly hit my oiled mould with some brake cleaner in the cavity only and let the oil stay on the outside of the mould to form a protective patina...no more rust. WD40 had let me down many times, no more of that.



    Dummy Rounds> handy little inert works that will save so much time in die set-up or in checking to see if they will cycle in a lever rifle, they have multiple uses...here the idea is to keep track of them & locate them quickly, they tend to get lost if they are left in the die box or put together in a can or drawer.



    OK...that's enough for now, I dare not to go to the casting bench and get started there, I'd prolly run out of room here.
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    Nothing really super-Eureka, but I have two Thumler's Tumblers and unscrewing and re-screwing those six wing nuts on each became quite a tiresome chore. I took a hex-to-1/4" square drive adapter for a cordless screwdriver and then went though my assorted 1/4"-drive sockets to find one slightly bigger than the centre-nut part of the wing nut. I then clamped said socket in a small vise, and using the grinding disk on a Dremel tool, ground/cut out two slots -- one on each side -- to accommodate the wings. To be OCD, I then epoxied (J-D Weld) the socket to drive-adapter, then dropping in a small round magnet.
    NOW -- I just put this custom adapter over a wingnut, run (Milwaukee 2.4Volt screwdriver) in reverse, and may remove wingnut from adapter after it is unscrewed -- times six -- for each drum. To reinstall, simply put a wingnut into the adapter -- magnet holds it in place -- and fasten away. I even have a Harbor Freight magnet parts tray "stuck" to Tumbler's end to store wingnuts and washers as I'm both disassembling as well as putting lid back on.
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    A lot of us use the Harbor Freight mini chop saw for cutting down cartridge cases. It really works well. But cutting cases to the exact same length can be problematic. What I do is turn a mandrel a little smaller than the case mouth with a stop shoulder on it. I put this in the mini vise, adjusting its position so when a case is slipped on, up against the shoulder, it cuts the case about .025" longer than needed. When I bring the saw blade down, I cut about 2/3rds of the way through the case. Then rotate the case 180 degrees and finish the cut.

    Then I deburr inside the case mouth and trim to final length on a precision trimmer.
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    Hey guyes these are some great ideas.

    If I am loading only a few loads that need the neck expanded I use an old bottle neck case that will slip inside the case needing flaring.

    Such as a 30 cal. I will use a 243 . the neck slips inside the 30 and the243 shoulder will flare the 30 cal brass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ndnchf View Post
    A lot of us use the Harbor Freight mini chop saw for cutting down cartridge cases. It really works well. But cutting cases to the exact same length can be problematic. What I do is turn a mandrel a little smaller than the case mouth with a stop shoulder on it. I put this in the mini vise, adjusting its position so when a case is slipped on, up against the shoulder, it cuts the case about .025" longer than needed. When I bring the saw blade down, I cut about 2/3rds of the way through the case. Then rotate the case 180 degrees and finish the cut.

    Then I deburr inside the case mouth and trim to final length on a precision trimmer.
    Now that hits the spot in my camp!

    I knew there had to be a better way and was holding off buying one of those chop saws until a long got bulb went off or something, because I wanted to avoid butchering a bunch of brass.

    Thank you for sharing that!

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    There have been a lot of innovative tips here thus far, honorable mention goes to OS OK for a plethora of good noggin’ usage .....

    I have just a couple on the top of my feeble brain:

    My first is I keep a number of shell holders in any given size. The reason is that I will have one in my press, another in my RCBS hand held priming tool, another in my RCBS standard bench priming seater tool (I use it to firm up my seating and take care of any high primers rather than over stress the pot metal hand tool to do the same).

    So my solution is that I have 2 of those Harbor Freight organizer boxes with independent trays and a snap down lid and the multiple shell holders of the same size has it’s own compartment. It takes two boxes because I do a lot of different cartridges and have quite a collection of holders.

    The second tip is a technique: I read this from a gun magazine years ago about bullet seating (Rick Jamisson’s Column). It involves starting each bullet more carefully. As I raise the ram I just enter the bullet into the case mouth slightly. As the ram lowers I use my off hand to rotate the cartridge several degrees, say 60, and then raise the ram again. The trick is to only seat the bullet ever so slightly deeper, not much and upon lowering the ram, rotate the case again, about 60 degrees. You can taylor your method as you see fit. Generally by the second re-push I am ready to go ahead and send the bullet “home”.

    The reason for this added effort is that the seating die is used to re-adjust the centerline of the bullet a couple of times in case it was a little tipped out of alingement the first time. You need to refrain from seeking the bullet too deeply too soon because the seating stem can not salvage good centering of a crookedly seated bullet if it is too far into the case before you rotate and re-push the bullet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nawagner View Post
    I like that idea and will definitely use it that way next time!

    I'm sure others have this figured out already... I use the plastic cases that purchased ammo come in as shell holders.
    I use the 50 round plastic inserts from pistol ammo to hold sized/lubed boolis, protects them nicely, stacks and stores well and allows me a quick count on how many I've got cast and ready to load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackQuest View Post
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    Shell holders not being too expensive I've put one in each die set box for that caliber. I use everything in the box when loading and don't trade parts, ever. And even if I unload a weapon and don't load its caliper I never trade away tooling.
    This is a good tip and I would like to add to match the shell holder brand to the die brand .
    Not all shell holders are the same ... die manufacturers make their dies to work properly with their shell holders ... using another can , not always but can cause problems .
    A Lee shell holder gave me problems with some CH dies...when I remembered I usually used a CH holder and swapped it for the Lee ...problem solved .
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    If your town has a rotary street sweeper, they have "Broom straws" that are about 10 inches long and 1/8 inch wide, of pretty good spring steel, that show up in gutters. They can scrape primer pockets and clean stuff out of range pickup brass. A dremel cut-off wheel can put a notch in one end and a hook in the side of the other end to make a spring tool. These are handy when you change the trigger spring in a Ruger single action. Or narrow down one end to clean the extractor recess on a 22 auto.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
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LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
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