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Thread: Anyone playing with .44 Rimfire Long?

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    Anyone playing with .44 Rimfire Long?

    I know its a real long shot, but is anyone playing with 44 rimfire long? I've done a lot of work with reloadable .32 rimfire (and its centerfire equivalent). But I've got a .44 rimfire rolling block that I want to shoot too. I can swap in a centerfire block too. I'm pretty sure cases can be made from .44 Special. Looking for bullet recommendations. This is most likely a heel bullet.

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    I hope people reply. I like old rimfires large and small calibers. Have played with both .32 and .50 cal rimfires.

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    I've got a antique .32 rim fire Wesson single shot like this,
    but haven't taken the plunge to buy $10. each, or convert & make ammo for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregorious View Post
    I have seen these listed, but never purchased anything from Roberson. Has anyone else? For my reloadable 32 rimfires, I made my own cases. Though pricy, I might try a few of these cases. But the simple alternative is to swap in a centerfire block from one of my other rolling blocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winger Ed. View Post
    I've got a antique .32 rim fire Wesson single shot like this,
    but haven't taken the plunge to buy $10. each, or convert & make ammo for it.
    That is sure a Funky gun- pretty cool indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    That is sure a Funky gun- pretty cool indeed.
    They really are.
    Mine is in pretty sad shape. I got it from a customer's widow along with some other
    weapons I bought that she just wanted out of the house after her husband died,
    and her kids were both 'all messed up with that narcotic' as she said.

    The front trigger releases the barrel to tip up.
    It wasn't playing the blame game, finding fault, and complaining about every little thing that made America great.
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    There is an extensive thread about making and shooting 32 rimfires in this forum. They are not too expensive or hard to make. There are several ways to go for 32 rimfire.

    44 rimfire is breaking new ground for me. I'm waiting for the rifle to arrive, but I think 44 mag brass can be used as a starting point. But a chamber cast will tell the story.

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    On you tube there is a video of a guy making Swiss 18mm Rimfire Milbank-Amsler ammo. .70 cal rimfire I am not sure about posting a link if that is Ok. Search for "Swiss 18mm Rimfire Milbank-Amsler" and you will find it.

    I have a Tripplet and Scott that shoots a 56-50 rimfire. I bought rimfire case from Dixie and they work but they don't hold a full powder charge. They are about 3/8" short. I have thought about using a 56-50 center fire and following the above video make my own full length 56-50 rimfire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostinidaho View Post
    On you tube there is a video of a guy making Swiss 18mm Rimfire Milbank-Amsler ammo. .70 cal rimfire I am not sure about posting a link if that is Ok. Search for "Swiss 18mm Rimfire Milbank-Amsler" and you will find it.

    I have a Tripplet and Scott that shoots a 56-50 rimfire. I bought rimfire case from Dixie and they work but they don't hold a full powder charge. They are about 3/8" short. I have thought about using a 56-50 center fire and following the above video make my own full length 56-50 rimfire.
    I'll take a look, thanks.

    For my M1871 Springfield Spencer rifle, I've gone the centerfire route. It shoots the centerfire equivalent .50-45 wonderfully.
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    This is the video.

    https://www.full30.com/watch/MDIxNDA...milbank-amsler


    That was a very interesting video. I applaud his creativity in making tools to do the various steps. His bullet heel shaving tool is pretty ingenius.

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    Hello ndnchf,

    Here is a chart of .44 RF Dimensions, copied from COTW.
    I did swage a heel on the LEE 44-200-1R bullet, for my .44 Colt Original.

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    Thanks. I figure .44 Special or .44 Mag brass will make a suitable donor. That's a lot easier than what I had to do for .32 Rimfire XL. I have a .45 Colt Lee .452" - 255gr mold. My initial plan is to cast some of these, then chuck them in the lathe and turn a heel on them. But I need to determine the heel diameter first.

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    I went .428 on mine, but if your rifle is chambered for the .44 Short you better slug the bore.
    According to COTW, the .44 Short used a.446 diameter bullet, not the .452.
    You might have to size your bullet down a bit.

    AntiqueSledMan.

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    I've talked with another Remington RB .44 owner. His was .451" - .452" groove size. I believe this is .44 Long, but won't know for sure until I get it. I'll slug the bore and do a chamber cast, then go from there.

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    I can't wait to see what you come up with. Your 32 looked very interesting.

    Keep us posted, AntiqueSledMan.

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    Something like this?



    218 grain pure lead bullet, .428 heel, .452 major diameter in a .44 mag case trimmed to 1.092". .44 SPL would require slightly less trimming, but I have more .44 mag brass on hand.
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    Collecting .32 molds. Please let me know if you have one you don't need, cause I might "need" it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoZombies View Post
    Something like this?



    218 grain pure lead bullet, .428 heel, .452 major diameter in a .44 mag case trimmed to 1.092". .44 SPL would require slightly less trimming, but I have more .44 mag brass on hand.
    Yes! That is what I'm thinking. Although that bullet seems a little light. From what I've seen, the original bullets ran 245-265gr. What mold is that from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ndnchf View Post
    Yes! That is what I'm thinking. Although that bullet seems a little light. From what I've seen, the original bullets ran 245-265gr. What mold is that from?
    It's an old NEI mold for the .44 Colt/ .44 remington. Which were essentially the CF equivalent of the .44 long RF, or close enough that many people considered them interchangeable.
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    Great - thanks!

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