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Thread: 10 Grs. Unique. The Universal Cast Boolit Rifle Load?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jupiter7 View Post
    It won't cycle, not even close. Strictly a single shot proposition. No real advice for supersonic with unique as I've only used it in subs with my bolt gun and heavy boolits. But, 7.62x39 data with that boolit is published in Lyman's 49th. I'd be afraid to extrapolate a near max load being 300blk is a smaller case, lyman data shows max load of 9.5grs in the x39 and starting at 7.8. I used 5.5grs with 245's in the 300 for a subsonic load and that was dug up from old whisper data. If I had to start somewhere it'd be around 6grs with the 312-155.
    That was my plan was to just shoot it bolt action style until my h110 powder comes in. Thanks again.

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    Gentlemen.

    I have read the sticky on 10 grains of Unique being the universal load...however I didn't find much of the 358 Win. Doing a search really didn't reveal much. I am wondering what others experience have been with this powder in the 358 Win. I am loading an Accurate 360-240A which comes in at 238 grains checked and lubed. I feel comfortable starting at 10 grains, but wondering what others have found was a load nearing acceptable pressure levels? I have used Unique in my 45-70 and they were fun to shoot, easy on the pocket book and allowed me loads of shooting when powder was near impossible to find.

    Thanks.

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    Nice shooting Ben

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    Regarding subsonic Unique cast loads in the .300 Whisper (Blackout), after hundreds of rounds fired over a an indoor chronograph using all of the recommended powders I acquired for developing jacketed loads, the best load for the 210 grain Lyman 311299 cast bullet turned out to be 5.5 grains of good old Unique. Averaging 1,020 fps it produced the smallest extreme spread of only 22 fps and grouped about 1 1/2 moa. A tight twist is needed to stabilize it (mine is 7.5) and it is indeed quiet through a can.

    I have a J.D. Jones upper with two position gas valve and it will operate the action most of the time, but using the smaller orifice results in single shot mode and is slightly more accurate. It is the load I shoot 90% of the time.

    Note: 1,020 fps is a good suppressor load because of the shot to shot variations that can take you up into the noise region especially in cold, dense air. - Sherlok

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    OK, I've got to ask.

    Have any of you 338 Winchester Mag shoots tired Unique? if so what how many grains for what weight bullet?


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    I'm putting together a .338 Win Mag on a Mark X action and will be working on a load soon. With RCBS 33-200-FN 19.5 gr is Max. I would start with 17.0 and work up.

    Edited to add: Lyman #3 says:

    From a Winchester Model 70 24" barrel

    338320 203 gr. 14.0 gr. 1400 fps 19.5 gr. 1705 fps
    33889 249 gr. 14.0 gr. 1245 fps 19.0 gr. 1510 fps

    Edited again to add: I have a Lyman 33889 mold (NIB) on the way and will report results.
    Last edited by oldblinddog; 04-18-2015 at 05:29 PM.

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    Although 10gr was very respectable, 14gr was better today. NOE 312440, MML+, .308 Bellm in the Handi Rifle with 1.25x32 Tasco. I would imagine results would be better if the barrel locked up tighter with this old 10ga frame, but I'm pleased.

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    Unique Powder was the first powder I ever used for reloading. I loaded for my .44 magnum--did not work well in my Ruger Super Blackhawk. I didn't shoot groups, I shot "patterns". Anyway, I gave the Unique to a buddy & I've never used it again.


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    i was looking for a lite load in a marlin 1894 44 mag to shoot at the chickens and pigs during the nra pistol cartridge cowboy lever action matches. so I go to unique to start the hunt. all ways heard that 10gr of unique is the cast load gold standard. i have been using 2400 and/or h110 for all of my 44 mag needs for many mango seasons in the nra pistol silhouette game with a 270gr cast lead gas check boolit. i use the pistol load in the lever gun cowboy game. so today i came up with three loads for my home made 270gr cast lead gas check boolits. ran the loads across the chronograph,,,, 8.0gr @ 1,095 fps, 8.5gr @ 1,143 fps, and 9.0 @ 1,193 fps. all three loads are easy on the shoulder. looks like i need to do some at 10gr of unique just to see. all loads will go on paper to see best group.

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    Got to add my 2 cents to this long sticky since I used it with very good results. 10 grains of Unique under a cruise missile in a 1895 sporterized Swedish Mauser. Very accurate at 50 and 100 yards. Slow enough to make my 1/4" steel plate sing without damage and the missile makes really cool looking splatter pattern. Lastly, love the low recoil which makes my shoulder happy.
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    does anyone use Unique in the 50 A.E. in a revolver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by artz View Post
    does anyone use Unique in the 50 A.E. in a revolver?
    Use it in 500 mag. 20gr with a 375gr gas check bullet or 16gr with a gas check 475gr bullet
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    mine is a tc encore in 444 marlin(23" mgm barrel) and for unique its 11.5gr . a 250gr mihek hp at 50 yards.





    i still gotta try 30-40 krag and the 44 mag/44 special.

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    What would the load data be using unique in a ruger 22 hornet? Safe or no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRSLYR View Post
    Unique Powder was the first powder I ever used for reloading. I loaded for my .44 magnum--did not work well in my Ruger Super Blackhawk. I didn't shoot groups, I shot "patterns". Anyway, I gave the Unique to a buddy & I've never used it again.


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    And then there's about a million of us who consider it the most versatile powder on the planet. You should borrow some and try it again with all due respect.

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    i like to use unique in my ruger sbh(4 5/8" barrel) in 44 mag. it does great whether i'm using a 44 mag or a 44 sp. i have tried 220gr wc, 250gr mihek hp, 275gr ranch dog and 280gr wfn with my sbh and a can of unique.

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    I really need to start casting for the long guns .

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    I user 9-12 grains of unique in 41 Swiss, 38-55, 45-70 and 35 Remington. Seems to work great for what I call tin can loads.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
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