I usually use Unique, herco
Ive never tried Hogdon Universal
I read its inconsistent and real dirty powder
Fun Shop was out of Unique .....
What's your story on Hogdon's Universal? Good- Bad- Ugly ?
I usually use Unique, herco
Ive never tried Hogdon Universal
I read its inconsistent and real dirty powder
Fun Shop was out of Unique .....
What's your story on Hogdon's Universal? Good- Bad- Ugly ?
Last edited by GSP7; 03-27-2020 at 05:27 PM.
Universal clays is very clean burning.
Very popular and flexible pistol powder.
if its burning dirty for you then you are doing something very wrong.
Like I said, I have never used it
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...gdon-Universal
Last edited by GSP7; 03-27-2020 at 05:25 PM.
It can't be too dirty. My trapshooting neighbor claims Remington uses it in their best clay pigeon loads. I've found it to be useful in almost any handgun cartridge and many shotshell loadings. It's never been the most accurate in my handguns, though.
Great powder and I use it for fun 44 mag loads. Also for 45 acp and 38 special/357 mag. Works with both cast and jacketed leads. Hodgdon's site has recipes for it.
For sure use loading data from a good source, but I have found it is basically a clean substitute for Unique. I keep a large jug on hand because it is useful in both light revolver and BP era rifle rounds.
So I would agree with the above post about it being clean.
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Years ago I switched from Unique to Universal when they talked about how much cleaner it burned. Didn't really seem all that much cleaner to me, but I still like to use it. In fact, I have used it for just about all of my reloading of handgun cartridges. 357mag, 41mag, 44spl, 44mag, 45Colt, 45ACP Not barn-burner loads, just fun loads that are heavy enough to use on varmints if needed.
Just got back from the Fun shop again and grabbed that jug of Hogdons Universal , since everyone is out of Unique, even midwayusa and midsouth shooter supply.
I still Have a pound ea of Unique, Herco, bluedot and 4756
I think Universal will be a good powder for 44sp and 45colt
Just waitin' on . that 44sp brass to arrive
The Jug I got says its made in Canada, and the label doesnt have 'clays technology' printed on it
https://www.hodgdon.com/wp-content/u...-1024x1024.jpg
Load data at Hgdon website says 5.6 gr max with 240 gr swc. .44sp
My speer book says 6.5 gr max, with a 250gr Kieth .44sp
should be fun
Last edited by GSP7; 03-27-2020 at 08:14 PM.
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I've been buying instead of Unique for a while now.
it burns clean, with a good roll crimp
the yield is about the same
it meters better in my Dillons
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Last edited by GSP7; 03-28-2020 at 04:31 PM.
I use Universal in .38 Sp., .44 Sp., and .45 Colt (non +P)...exclusively (well...other than Goex 3F here and there). Love it and see no reason to change.
I only found it "dirty" when light loaded, and then it was unburned powder flakes...or what looked like it. The further I got from the start load, the cleaner it got, for me.
While I no longer load or shoot .44 Special, I have used 6.0gr. of Universal with a 200gr. Boolit with success, I don’t recall it being overly dirty. A true sage named Rocky Raab recommended 6.0gr. of Universal regardless of boolit weight (commonly used weights) on another forum ( I forget which), which is what go me to try it. The Hodgdon website has Universal data for .44 Special so it is a legitimate powder for that caliber.
In .45Colt I have used 9gr with a machine cast 255 swcbb. It burns clean and is a pretty strong load in my S&W Mountain Gun.........
Good grief guys! What ever happened to getting dirty to have fun?
Universal is cleaner than (new) Unique which is cleaner than (old) Unique, however you put a magnum primer behind a mid-range load of either old or new Unique and it is the cleanest of all three with standard primers.
A little “soap and scrubbing” and we are all clean again!
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I dont 'get' the 'clean' either
I figure all the dirt in the barrel is going to be blown out with the next shot, so what's the point of a "clean" powder?
Not to be a wet blanket, but Universal is one of the worst powders for large case, low pressure rounds like 45 Colt and 44 Special.
Shoot over chronograph. Fire five shots with powder near primer, then powder near bullet. Prepare for considerable dismay.
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