Lee PrecisionReloading EverythingTitan ReloadingRepackbox
WidenersPBcastcoInline FabricationRotoMetals2
Load Data MidSouth Shooters Supply
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 42

Thread: Oh my did I mess up!!!

  1. #1
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Posts
    2,492

    Oh my did I mess up!!!

    I dropped 80 pieces of 44 brass (Russian, special, magnum - mixed) into my tumbler on the way through the reloading room and hit the switch last night. Came home to this tonight.....218 Bee was already in there! Anyone have advice to get these apart? I wiggled and pliered the ones that would come. This is what's left!!

    Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk

  2. #2
    Moderator


    Winger Ed.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Just outside Gun Barrel City, Texas
    Posts
    9,430
    Keep wiggling them, but upside down so the media can fall out if it can as opposed to how it got in there in the first place.
    In school: We learn lessons, and are given tests.
    In life: We are given tests, and learn lessons.


    OK People. Enough of this idle chit-chat.
    This ain't your Grandma's sewing circle.
    EVERYONE!
    Back to your oars. The Captain wants to waterski.

  3. #3
    Boolit Master
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Posts
    2,492
    By the way, these are what's left from 4 of us after 3 hours of wiggling! And in literally every position I could think of!
    Just a thought, would an acid or base soften crushed walnut shells to the point where these would loosen?

    Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk

  4. #4
    Boolit Master

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    oklahoma
    Posts
    2,473
    I'd be afraid of any liquid swelling the walnut. I have always been able to get them apart. The inside of the cases are tapered so it is just a friction fit. Have you tried the kinetic bullet puller?. That'd do it.

  5. #5
    Moderator


    Minerat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Jefferson County, CO
    Posts
    9,514
    Man I hate that, had some 41 mag-380s get married. Finally used pliers to ruin the 380 brass to get them apart. Maybe a little dish soap or oil to slick them up.
    Steve,

    Life Member NRA
    Colorado Rifle Club member
    Rocky Mtn Gun Owners member
    NAGR member

  6. #6
    Boolit Buddy Cast_outlaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2018
    Location
    B.C. Canada
    Posts
    418
    Kinetic bullet puller, put an ear plug in the bottom to soften the blow to the bee case

  7. #7
    Boolit Master



    skeettx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Amarillo, Texas
    Posts
    4,102
    put them back in the vibrator, no media, run for 120 seconds an see what happens
    NRA Benefactor 2004 USAF RET 1971-95

  8. #8
    Moderator



    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Oregon Coast
    Posts
    10,248
    Quote Originally Posted by skeettx View Post
    put them back in the vibrator, no media, run for 120 seconds an see what happens
    skeettx beat me to it. Put them in the tumbler minus media and let the vibration do it's thing.

    Hope this helps.

    Fred
    After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. - William S. Burroughs.

  9. #9
    Boolit Bub
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    43
    A close fitting rod down the neck will give you a little more leverage when trying to wiggle them out. I'd try the dry tumbler first though.

  10. #10
    Boolit Grand Master OS OK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Location
    El Dorado County, N. Ca.
    Posts
    6,234
    Empty the vibrator tub...
    turn it on...
    hold the outside case upside down against the inside rim of the vibrator.

    That generally will dislodge a few pins quickly from vibration and gravity pulling the pins down into the vibrator tub.
    The more pins that dislodge, the looser the fit between the cases.

    Be patient, it took some time to get them like this and it'll take a little time to undo this booboo too.
    a m e r i c a n p r a v d a

    Be a Patriot . . . expose their lies!

    “In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” G. Orwell

  11. #11
    Boolit Master

    Land Owner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Mims, FL
    Posts
    1,864
    skeettx, ReloaderFred, OS OK, and I have consensus (you guys beat me to my first impression too).

    The tumbler got the polish medium in there. An empty tumbler will get (most of) them vibrated apart.

    I like the 120 seconds time limit. Take out those separated and rerun.
    If it was easy, anybody could do it.

  12. #12
    Boolit Mold
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Posts
    2
    Boil some water and fill a coffee mug. Dip just the 44 cases enough to get past the stuck case rim inside. Should heat the pistol cartridge up just enough to expand and let loose the inside case.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  13. #13
    Boolit Master

    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    East Arkansas where I55 & I40 come together and then split
    Posts
    688
    Don't think you are the only one to do that. I did it with .45 colt and .357 cases and no I didn't do it again.

  14. #14
    Boolit Master


    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    TN
    Posts
    1,895
    Quote Originally Posted by Mulligan1298 View Post
    Boil some water and fill a coffee mug. Dip just the 44 cases enough to get past the stuck case rim inside. Should heat the pistol cartridge up just enough to expand and let loose the inside case.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    They'll expand in both directions - inside and out.

    If anything, he needs to freeze the cases, not that I'd go that route to start with.

  15. #15
    Boolit Man willowbend's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Posts
    80
    Glad to see i'm not the only one that has done this.

  16. #16
    Boolit Grand Master jmorris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    5,267
    You just learned something you didn’t know. Sort first then tumble.

    If you really like puzzles tumble 45 gap with 50 bmg...

  17. #17
    Boolit Master
    DonMountain's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Mid-Missouri
    Posts
    1,159
    I always tumble everything together and of course sometimes have this problem. But I learned a long time ago to just take the cover off my tumbler (Lyman Mag Tumbler) with walnut shells, plug it back in and sit next to it on a chair with the tumbler running sitting on the floor. I filter through the media with my fingers and take out several casings and hold them upside down next to the rim of the tumbler, and they vibrate apart, with the stuck in case falling back into the tumbler.

  18. #18
    Boolit Master Win94ae's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    585
    LOL! That is funny!

  19. #19
    Boolit Master


    cwlongshot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Central Connecticut
    Posts
    3,717
    Ain’t that a bugger!!!

    Patience and fragile
    Plyers always seem
    To get them apart for me.
    NRA Life member • REMEMBER, FREEDOM IS NOT FREE its being paid for in BLOOD.
    Come visit my RUMBLE & uTube page's !!

    https://www.RUMBLE.com/user/Cwlongshot
    https://youtube.com/channel/UCBOIIvlk30qD5a7xVLfmyfw

  20. #20
    Boolit Grand Master



    M-Tecs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Minnesota
    Posts
    9,441
    Quote Originally Posted by C. Latch View Post
    They'll expand in both directions - inside and out.

    If anything, he needs to freeze the cases, not that I'd go that route to start with.
    When heated holes expand. People tend to have a hard time visualizing this. Metal expands when heated because an increase in temperature is actually an increase in the vibration of the atoms that compose the metal, and this vibration forces the atoms slightly apart.

    An easy visualization of how this effects holes is to take a dozen dimes and a dozen quarters. Make a circle with both. The quarters would represent the atoms when they are further apart due to being heated. The group of quarters will have a larger ID.
    2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. - "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    "Before you argue with someone, ask yourself, is that person even mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of different perspectives? Because if not, there’s absolutely no point."
    – Amber Veal

    "The Highest form of ignorance is when your reject something you don't know anything about".
    - Wayne Dyer

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check