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    7.62X25 Question

    Hello all. I just added a Tokarev. I've slugged the bore and it's .312. Cast bullets sized .312 chamber just fine (.313 will chamber but it's tight) So my question is, are any of you shooting any .312 jacketed or plated bullets out of the 7.62X25? I have pistols in 32ACP, 32 H&R and 32-20 so I have some Hornady and Berry's on hand. Gp

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    I loaded 110 gr plated m1 carbine bullets. Work well. Easier to find recipes for lighter bullets though.

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    djyan13: Thanks for the reply. The reason for my post above is that the data I find for Jwords in the Tok say the bullet should be .308 or .309 I have heard that some Euro cartridges are loaded with .306 to keep pressures down in High velocity rounds. I'm thinking of trying the 85gr. XTP at .312 with the 90gr XTP .309 data. Just wondering if anyone here had tried this. Gp

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    I used 100gr 32cal xtps with excellent results. My chamber would release .3125 but the bore was 313. Followed lee 100gr jacketed data at a midrange load of AA#7.

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    Misery-Whip: Thanks. I have both 85gr and 100gr XTPs on hand and some Berry's 71gr plated. I'll give the XTPs a try and will post how it goes. I'm liking this Romanian Tok. It came to me in near new condition and doesn't feel at all clunky in my hand. First rounds loaded and tested were the Lee 91gr. SWCs powder coated and sized .312. fed nicely. Gp

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    This is what I have tried in my CZ-52 in 7.62x25. This is not a recommendation or claim that these loads are safe and that I have made no mistake in recording the powder charges so take care.

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    My bore is around .313 so I shoot .314s but I have to neck turn a bit to get them to chamber. I also make an 85gr jacketed swc from 50cal BMG spent primers and a lyman 25cal cast boolet with a Swag-o-matic press and some homemade dies. Most of the Toks have a chamber neck that is to small to shoot a big enough boolit without neck turning. My Cz 52 is the same.

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    You, sir, are awesome! Wish I could do that... don’t run enough 50 though and getting into swaging is super expensive.

    Quote Originally Posted by rbuck351 View Post
    My bore is around .313 so I shoot .314s but I have to neck turn a bit to get them to chamber. I also make an 85gr jacketed swc from 50cal BMG spent primers and a lyman 25cal cast boolet with a Swag-o-matic press and some homemade dies. Most of the Toks have a chamber neck that is to small to shoot a big enough boolit without neck turning. My Cz 52 is the same.

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    Thanks to all for the reply's I am lucky in the fact that my Romanian Tok"s barrel slugs .312 and the chamber will accept bullet of .312+ .313 will chamber without neck turning (S&B brass) but too tight for comfort. I loaded a test round with an 85gr. XTP and see if that will feed and function properly. I've formed some 7.62X25 from .223 I have time and like to tinker. (I know, I have Starline also) The problem I'm having is using .308 neck expansion, a .311 bit in the drill press just expands the neck instead of reaming and the mandrel of my Sinclair neck turning tool is to long to get the neck to the cutting blade for turning. What are you using to thin the necks on reformed brass? Thanks. Gp

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    Yeah,normal swaging dies are very expensive and I don't have any for that reason.The old Swag-o-Matic presses can be found for around $100. I bought mine here on the S&S section for $75 with several die sets. You can use a 308 die opened to .312 to .314 (your choice) with the stock ejector pin and SWC top punch. Take a spent 50bmg primer, remove the anvil, install it in the die with a 25cal boolit ( I use the lyman 65gr) squish it in the press and out comes a neat 85gr swc.

    I have a HF 7x14 lathe and the die sets are fairly easy to make for other calibers as anything but the normal 308, 357, 429 and 452 are hard to find. The Swag-0-Matic was made to make half jacket bullets but the 50bmg primer and the 65gr 25cat boolit makes an almost full jacket 85gr bullet. I bought 3000 spent primers from a guy that shoots a 50 cal machine gun for $30.
    I use the mini lathe to thin the necks. I made a mandrel to fit the neck in the chuck and a live center in the primer pocket. I have come to the point that my baby lathe is one of the necessities on my loading bench.
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    I’m working on loading some boolits for 7.62x25. I’m using the Lee 311-93 mold, and sizing .309. I haven’t decided on a load or anything yet. I’m going to make cases from .223(because I have a crap ton and time). I have a few different guns chambered in that. Looking forward to shooting them again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbuck351 View Post
    Yeah,normal swaging dies are very expensive and I don't have any for that reason.The old Swag-o-Matic presses can be found for around $100. I bought mine here on the S&S section for $75 with several die sets. You can use a 308 die opened to .312 to .314 (your choice) with the stock ejector pin and SWC top punch. Take a spent 50bmg primer, remove the anvil, install it in the die with a 25cal boolit ( I use the lyman 65gr) squish it in the press and out comes a neat 85gr swc.

    I have a HF 7x14 lathe and the die sets are fairly easy to make for other calibers as anything but the normal 308, 357, 429 and 452 are hard to find. The Swag-0-Matic was made to make half jacket bullets but the 50bmg primer and the 65gr 25cat boolit makes an almost full jacket 85gr bullet. I bought 3000 spent primers from a guy that shoots a 50 cal machine gun for $30.
    I use the mini lathe to thin the necks. I made a mandrel to fit the neck in the chuck and a live center in the primer pocket. I have come to the point that my baby lathe is one of the necessities on my loading bench.
    That’s very interesting. I’ve dabbled a bit in swaging, not too much.

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