Okay, what kind of accuracy are you guys getting from Model 73 Win 16 inch barrel and Model 92s with 20 inch barrel. This is with cast lead 158 grain flat based round nose flat point. I'm wanting just one simple accurate load. I'm driving myself nuts jumping around trying so many different loads. I do not want magnum loads, just reduced velocity about 1250- 1350 fps or close. I think I maybe expecting to much from cast loads in a lever action rifle. Not interested in pistols. Oh, open sights only, no scopes unless you state so in your results. 73s and 92s really are not scope sight rifles. I'm asking here because I have no one I know close by that I kind talk too.