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Thread: Winchester 1876 in .50-95, Who has one?

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    Ya know it is possible that there are more 50-95 rifles being shot in our country today than at any other time.
    The production numbers were never high with many being sent to India and other "big cat" areas in the "far east".
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    I just got back from the range and collected some good. 50-95 chrono data for a few of my loads. I'll post them in a while. Cleaning guns now.

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    Super ! Always good to read how loads are performing in another barrel.
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    Anyone know what the optimum crimp groove to nose measurement is for best COAL for the newer Uberti guns. Thinking about having Accurate molds make a mold that is just right for COAL - and with a bit wider meplat than the 51-350-CL
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    2.245 " COAL is what I load my Uberti to. It functions flawlessly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ndnchf View Post
    2.245 " COAL is what I load my Uberti to. It functions flawlessly.
    mine are right around 2.260 "

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    missionary, you are more than likely correct! Come to think of it, there's probably a lot like that. Sharps come to mind as do Colt SAA's and 73s. I thought maybe rollers but boy, there was a PILE of them made.
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    We do have a lot to choose from today. Think of all the caliber possibilities and all the companies turning out lever actions.
    Yet it is still the BP based calibers that dominate sales in lever actions. Sure is an interesting time to be a cast reloader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by missionary5155 View Post
    We do have a lot to choose from today. Think of all the caliber possibilities and all the companies turning out lever actions.
    Yet it is still the BP based calibers that dominate sales in lever actions. Sure is an interesting time to be a cast reloader.
    Yet we still can't get proper headstamped brass without costing an arm and a leg for most of them. I was lucky enough to score several hundred 45/75 new Jamison cases so I should be good for my lifetime in that caliber. There is a guy selling new Jamison 40/60WCF brass on Guns International. I grabbed a couple hundred of those too, only because I hope to have 1 of each caliber in the Mighty 76!

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    I know Indian Joe is a leading member there, but if you other fella's come on over to the CAS 1876 forum, we have lots of useful info to share, and are always happy to have new guys come in and show off. https://www.cascity.com/forumhall/in...oard,89.0.html

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    Missionary, you may have a hard time getting back North. CV19 in Peru?
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    I agree, the CASCITY M1876 forum is a great resource. Years ago I started the "Loading data for the .50WCF" sticky at the top of the forum.

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    Howdy Gumbo
    It is down here also.. We are in our third week of "stay home"... They have the military and the reserves out to keep a 6pm - 5a "lock down".
    Something about 3000+ are in retention camps for being stupid.
    So maybe we will be able to leave here the end of May. But God knows the future and we will not kick and fuss. Sometime or another we will get there. Just so I do not miss out on bow season.
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    I've got a Chapparal 45-75 and a 50-95 Uberti and am in the process of acquiring brass, dies, and appropriate boolit moulds for both.

    What's a "Uberti chamber"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GL49 View Post

    What's a "Uberti chamber"?
    The Uberti Chamber is a term used for the improperly cut chambers for the early 76 rifles in 45/75 caliber. For whatever reason, the shoulder was cut too far forward than what the original is. the picture shows the Uberti Chamber shoulder, the one on the right is the properly placed shoulder. So far I have not had any problems with my rifle, it actually hold a bit more black powder that a normal shaped round. My rifle is a very accurate one, and prefers IMR 4198 powder with a 350gr pill. Hope this answers your question.


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    Quote Originally Posted by veeman View Post
    The Uberti Chamber is a term used for the improperly cut chambers for the early 76 rifles in 45/75 caliber. For whatever reason, the shoulder was cut too far forward than what the original is. the picture shows the Uberti Chamber shoulder, the one on the right is the properly placed shoulder. So far I have not had any problems with my rifle, it actually hold a bit more black powder that a normal shaped round. My rifle is a very accurate one, and prefers IMR 4198 powder with a 350gr pill. Hope this answers your question.
    Yes it does. Thanks for the pictures, that makes it easy to see.

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    That shorter one looks a lot like one of the British cartridges that was well used back then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by missionary5155 View Post
    Good morning
    We have a "higher" number 4xxx Chaparral 1876 in 50-95. We generally shoot Goex 3F with a 350 grain home cast. Rifle will shoot regularly 2.5 inches at 100 yards off cross sticks. Off and on I can hold it to 2.25 inches.
    So far no smokeless load can beat the 3F load but 5744 will come real close. Both the 3F load and 5744 we hold to the same velocity of 1465 fps more or less.
    The 350 grain slug does far more damage at 100 - 200 yards than the original under 300 grain slug.
    I will see if I can get a photo up....
    Mike in LLama Land
    I'm looking at a chaparral in 50-95. What is the tube magazine capacity?
    Thanks

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    I'm looking at a chaparral in 50-95. What is the tube magazine capacity?
    Thanks
    How long is the barrel?

    My chaparral has a 22” barrel and holds 9 rounds.
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    Geez, thanks for reviving this thread, and reminding me I still don't have a 76 in 50-95.

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