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Thread: Relining a 50-70 Allen conversion?

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    Boolit Bub
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    Relining a 50-70 Allen conversion?

    I have an Allen conversion trapdoor with a rough barrel. It will shoot minute of elephant and I was thinking of getting it relined, or getting a new barrel to save the old one. Is this a responsible thing to do or should it stay original? If if is proper who would do this kind of work?
    Nick

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    Boolit Buddy
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    Well, they were lined in the first place, going from 58 Rimfire to 50-70.
    Relining would be the way to go.

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    Boolit Master
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    There is only one I'd let do that(even though there are surely many who can) - Bob Hoyt. He's just outside Gettysburg. I'm waiting on him for a .43 Egyptian to be reborn as a .45-70.

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    Boolit Master
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    What model is it? Not all .50-70s were relines. Finding a good original barrel won't not be too hard.

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    Boolit Master
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    Check out the article on my web site about lining an 50/70 Sharps

    www.rvbprecision.com
    Roy B
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    www.rvbprecision.com

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    Boolit Bub
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    Where ? I have a 1866 stamped receiver, I think it was a reline. So Hoyt would be the person for a reline if a barrel is not available. I an thinking the price would be about the same.

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    Boolit Bub
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    Job well done!

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    Boolit Buddy
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    The chances of finding an 1866 barrel are pretty slim, in any condition. All 1866 barrels were originally .58 cal musket barrels, relined to .50 cal. Bob Hoyt is the go to guy for that job. He's done a number of barrels for me and they are all first rate. I've dealt with him for almost 30 years.

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    Boolit Master scattershot's Avatar
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    Second (or third) Bob Hoyt.
    "Experience is a series of non-fatal mistakes"


    Disarming is a mistake free people only get to make once...

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    Boolit Bub
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    Thanks I called him.

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    Boolit Master
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    Your 1866 is one built from surplus muskets on hand. The breech of the barrel was machined to accept the swinging block. The block was attached to a block that was anchored to the barrel with solder and two screws. An ejector was added. All this led to multiple cuts and holes in the “action” that did nothing to add to the strength. The 1865, 1866, and some of the 1868s were where the weak trapdoor legend was born. I shoot an 1866 (modified) and recommend only using black powder in it.

    Kevin
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